Movie Motorcycle Question

[superjohn]

Hi all. I checked the IMCDB for this, but they didn't have it listed, so I figured I'd ask the experts on the DMF.

42 minutes into the 1966 classic "Grand Prix", Barlini rides up to the party on a motorcycle.

My questions are:
1.) What is the motorcycle?
2.) Is the soundtrack of that bike or overdubbed from a different model?

Thanks.

[DoubleEagle]

I don't have your answer but if somebody wants to go to eztakes.com and download it in as a DVD for $4.98 they may beable to answer your question.   Dolph       

[Capo]

Could you post the clip here?

[kopfjäger]

I'm hunting for it. In the meanwhile, if you've never seen the race footage from the movie. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwppPI0tQiU

[DoubleEagle]

I'm hunting for it. In the meanwhile, if you've never seen the race footage from the movie. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwppPI0tQiU

That was most stimulating. Made me think I could keep up with those guys w, my " R ."

Thanks      Dolph     

[Oldfisti]

I have it on vhs. Give me a few min to fix a drink and I'll reel it up.  

[Oldfisti]

I'm hunting for it. In the meanwhile, if you've never seen the race footage from the movie. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwppPI0tQiU

That old Monza high bank makes Daytona look like a joke!

[Oldfisti]

I'll have to get back to you. Looks like I have to rewire the vcr and it's a pia to access!     Just switched tv's w/my dad. I thought they were identical except for size. Used the same hookup as mine but no picture.      

Too drunk to dill with it right now. 

[fastwin]

Don't know the answer but I remember seeing that movie as a kid with my parents. Saw it at the Majestic Theater in downtown Dallas. Great show! Wish I had it on tape or DVD. Am I dating myself again? Turned me onto F1 forever!

[jsanford]

I'll have to get back to you. Looks like I have to rewire the vcr and it's a pia to access!     Just switched tv's w/my dad. I thought they were identical except for size. Used the same hookup as mine but no picture.      

Too drunk to dill with it right now. 

[Yoda voice]Your A/V skills are weak.[/Yoda voice]

[kopfjäger]

I still can't find any info on the bike, but I found this.


Trivia
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The F1 cars in the movie are mostly mocked-up Formula 3 cars made to look like contemporary F1 models, although the film also used footage from actual F1 races. Some of this was captured by Phil Hill, the 1961 World Champion, who drove modified camera cars in some sessions during the 1966 Monaco and Belgian Grands Prix. This was some of the earliest experimentation with in-car cameras for Formula 1.
There are many incidents within the film that were inspired by real events in motorsport. Yamura cars are based on the Honda Formula One operation, and Aron gives them their first win - American Richie Ginther had given Honda their first Grand Prix victory in 1965. Stoddard's crash into the Monaco harbour was most likely inspired by the accidents of Alberto Ascari in the 1955 Monaco Grand Prix and Paul Hawkins' in the 1965 Monaco Grand Prix. Nino Barlini is based on the Lorenzo Bandini, a similarly fiery(!), competitive Italian killed at the 1967 Monaco Grand Prix in a fire. The withdrawal of the Ferrari cars following Sarti's death was inspired by a tradition previously displayed by Alfa Romeo and Mercedes-Benz (1955 Le Mans disaster), amongst others. However, on the three occasions previous to filming when a Ferrari driver had been killed in a race (Wolfgang von Trips at the 1961 Italian Grand Prix, Luigi Musso at the 1958 French Grand Prix, and Peter Collins at the 1958 German Grand Prix), the Ferrari team continued.
Pete Aron's helmet is the one used by perenially luckless New Zealander Chris Amon; Scott Stoddard's is that of Scottish driver Jackie Stewart, who also drove for BRM at the time. Two times World Champion Graham Hill appears as the minor character Bob Turner. Jim Clark and Guy Ligier are among those seen in archive footage.
More coincidentally, in 1991 Eddie Jordan would set up a Jordan Grand Prix team. When the team were hunting for an engine deal in late 1992, mischievous rumours were circulated that the team would be linking up with the short-lived BRM sports car prototype, which would have resulted in a Jordan-BRM team, as in the film. There was however a more realistic Jordan-BRM outfit: in the late 1970s, after the demise of the BRM team, the late John Jordan, a club-level racing driver, purchased many of their assets, and financed the build of the 'P230' model (for racing in the Aurora AFX British national F1 series; arguably these cars were Jordan-BRMs!
Brian Bedford was rumoured to have been chosen for his physical resemblance to Jim Clark, although the Lotus team does not appear in the film. This is believed to be because various teams including Lotus were involved with a rival John Sturges project. In a scene set at the Stoddart family home, Scott Stoddart sits in his late brother Roger's old car - a Lotus 16 ("Roger had some great days in this") - and there is a specially-commissioned Michael Turner painting of Roger winning the Belgian Grand Prix at Spa in a similar Lotus on the wall. The chances of the early front-engined Formula 2-based Lotus cars winning a Grand Prix were minimal!
Juan Manuel Fangio, famous Formula One race car champion has a non-speaking cameo.
Several different cars had to be used as the Yamuras during the filming. McLaren were originally going to run two cars in 1966, one for Bruce McLaren and one for Chris Amon (whose name and helmet provided inspiration for Pete Aron), but the Ford engine available to the team was inadequate; Amon never entered any races for McLaren, so Bruce wore a Chris Amon helmet (with the blue and red stripes reversed) that year; even Bruce missed some races due to the car's lack of performance and other cars such as Bob Bondurant's BRM were painted in 'Yamura' colours. (Bruce had originally intended his cars to be green on top and silver below the waist in 1966, with a broad yellow stripe separating green and silver; the film makers convinced him to paint them white to look "Japanese". The original poster for the 1966 German Grand Prix features a McLaren in the green/silver livery)
The Murasama car, which was the stand-in for the Honda in the game Grand Prix Legends, is painted white with a dark grey stripe and nose, similar to the Yamura in the film (which was the stand-in for Honda in the movie).
The level of driving ability of the stars varied wildly - Bedford couldn't drive at all, Sabato was very slow and nervous, Montand himself scared very easily early in filming and was often towed rather than driving the car, but Garner was highly competent and took up racing and entering cars as a result of his involvement in the film.
There was a joke campaign to nominate Graham Hill for the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor for his role as 'Bob Turner'. This parallels the contemporaneous 'Dan Gurney for President' stickers.
Almost thirty years later, this film provided the main inspiration for the racing simulator Grand Prix Legends, which was released in 1998. Like its cinematic counterpart, this also proved no commercial blockbuster but gained popularity among racing fans due to its emphasis on racing realism.

[Oldfisti]

[Yoda voice]Your A/V skills are weak.[/Yoda voice]

It's actually a very simple fix. The problem is access. Too many expensive components to move while drunk.     I have a few minutes to do it this morn before leaving. Dunno if I have time to search the tape till I get back.

[superjohn]

I still can't find any info on the bike, but I found this.

The DVD re-issue has a lot of cool documentary footage that talks about a lot of those in depth. Peter Windsor provides some of the commentary and makes an interesting point that the movie could never be made today since the owners of F1 would demand enough money to bankrupt Hollywood.

On topic, I think the bike may be an old Yamaha 2-stroke. It looks similar to a motorcycle used in the Paul Newman flick, "Winning" (yeah, I'm on a racing movie kick). But I'm really not sure, so if anyone can confirm that'd be great. I wish I could figure out how to pull off a screen shot from the DVD on this computer.

Thanks!!

[derby]

I wish I could figure out how to pull off a screen shot from the DVD on this computer.

should be an option in whatever dvd program you use.

[MadDuck]

I believe that the bike is a Yamaha YDS2 (250cc) or a YDS3 (305cc). They were nearly identical bikes except for the engine size.