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Looking to buy just the DP ECU for 08S2R1k, any suggestions?

Started by army_intel, January 29, 2009, 06:07:33 PM

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army_intel

Looking around it seems like Omaha Ducati might be the only ones that could sell it to me just the ECU itself.  Going to call them in the morning unless anyone else has a better idea.

Gus Duc

Quote from: army_intel on January 29, 2009, 06:07:33 PM
Looking around it seems like Omaha Ducati might be the only ones that could sell it to me just the ECU itself.  Going to call them in the morning unless anyone else has a better idea.

Ivan picked up one at Ducati Seattle & with the DMF discount I believe it was stikk $1100.  He ran it with full Zards & an open lid & he still needed a Power Commander as it was quite lean in the midrange.  15/1 IIRC.  His dyno is here somewhere.

If it were me I'd spend my money on a Nemisis ECU....... much more adjustable & you can use it on different bikes.  The first thing though is to find a good local tuner & see what he supports ..... I bought an Ultimap ECU & the thing could be amazing but it seems there's nobody west of Minnesota who will tune it [laugh]

booger

I have the DP ECU + airbox on my bike, along with a 43 tooth rear, and can't tell that it has any more oomph from when I was running the stock ECU and exhaust w/ partially cored cans. Smoothed it out in town and balanced the fuel/air mix is all I can see that it did. Of course I am choosing to run the stock exhaust w/ partially cored cans and QD midpipe. The Termis are still in the box. If you get a DP ECU make sure that whoever installs it doesn't marry it with the bike, so you can refit the stocker and sell it seperately when you sell the bike. Big market for just the ECUs.
Alternatively, you could have your stock ECU flashed to DP spec for $400 or so, I think monstermash? has the details.
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army_intel

I know i can get it reflashed, but I want to pay the extra money and get the DP ECU so my warranty isnt voided and I can still take it to the dealer should something make the beast with two backs up.  I am running the DP intake and Motocreations Boomtubes.

Gus Duc

Since you're running the Boom tubes I'd pick up a used stock ECU & have that one remapped & then dyno it & send it back to Tom to get it refined.  I see them on Ebay all the time & since Tom can turn off the immobilizer you'll be good to go [thumbsup]

Either way you'll need some tuning to maximize your setup as your pipes are very unique.

Ivan

Quote from: Gus Duc on January 29, 2009, 06:23:45 PM
Ivan picked up one at Ducati Seattle & with the DMF discount I believe it was stikk $1100.  He ran it with full Zards & an open lid & he still needed a Power Commander as it was quite lean in the midrange.  15/1 IIRC.  His dyno is here somewhere.

If it were me I'd spend my money on a Nemisis ECU....... much more adjustable & you can use it on different bikes.  The first thing though is to find a good local tuner & see what he supports ..... I bought an Ultimap ECU & the thing could be amazing but it seems there's nobody west of Minnesota who will tune it [laugh]

Your recollection is correct Gus....  and I've been very satisfied with the combination.  I noticed some improvement with just the ECU, but the addition of the PCIII really brought the engine to life, making a significant improvement from 3k rpms up to about 6k rpms.  I see the DP ECU as a PCIII enabler.

How widespread is support for the Nemesis?  I'm not knocking the product, I'm sure it works great, but you still gotta find someone local that knows how to tune it.  That is the nice thing about the PCIII, you can get the thing tuned just about anywhere.

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Ivan

Quote from: Gus Duc on January 29, 2009, 08:42:38 PM
Since you're running the Boom tubes I'd pick up a used stock ECU & have that one remapped & then dyno it & send it back to Tom to get it refined. 

I wonder how practical that would be.  Seems like a trial and error approach that might take a few iterations to converge on a good map.
Sold: 2007 S2R1000 for canyon carving and commuting - DP ECU, PCIII, BMC air filter with open box, Zard full exhaust, Race-tech fork internals, Ohlins steering damper, and a Penske 8987 triple clicker

2000 996XU (extra ugly) for track days - BST carbon wheels, Ohlins shock, reworked fork, FBF exhaust, and a bunch of megacycle rocker arms. The rest of it is junk - Hey, I'm just happy that it runs...

Sold: 2002 Aprilia RST1000 for touring - De-restricted airbox, Taylormade Racing exhaust

Raux

maybe the two guys could work together to get you a map that works with what you have. i mean motocreations i'm sure would be able to assist  [bow_down]


He Man

Quote from: Ivan on January 29, 2009, 08:50:51 PM
I wonder how practical that would be.  Seems like a trial and error approach that might take a few iterations to converge on a good map.

i figure they would look at the dyno map, see where it needs to be smoothen out, and fix accordingly, though ideally, you wanna adjust, dyno, adjust, dyno adjust. Would be pretty good on the first run though. Its still much better than running a stock DP ECU map.
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