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Started by amcloud, February 12, 2009, 11:38:06 AM

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amcloud

There are some websites that say the Competition Werkes tail chop fits the 696 and 1100, this is NOT true.  The tail chop will not work on the M1100 because of the exhaust back-pressure solenoid valve.  The tail chop relocates the lock to the mounting location of the solenoid.  This was just a hole in the seat frame on the 696.  I tore my tail apart and had to put it back together once I discovered this yesterday afternoon.  Hopefully this saves someone else the time and frustration.
M696 - sold, M1100s - gold Speedy kukri pressure plate, black Speedy halflife cover, Pazzo shorty racing levers, 14 tooth front, CRG ls, Speedy sliders all around, Leo Vince exhaust.

Raux

Quote from: amcloud on February 12, 2009, 11:38:06 AM
There are some websites that say the Competition Werkes tail chop fits the 696 and 1100, this is NOT true.  The tail chop will not work on the M1100 because of the exhaust back-pressure solenoid valve.  The tail chop relocates the lock to the mounting location of the solenoid.  This was just a hole in the seat frame on the 696.  I tore my tail apart and had to put it back together once I discovered this yesterday afternoon.  Hopefully this saves someone else the time and frustration.

what better excuse to buy the whole termi system minus the exhaust valve  [thumbsup]

Dave R

the exhaust valve with servo stays in place with the termi's.  The tailchop kit from DP fits no problem
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sfarchie

Quote from: Dave R on February 12, 2009, 01:59:06 PM
the exhaust valve with servo stays in place with the termi's.  The tailchop kit from DP fits no problem


Does the valve with servo exist with the full termis?

Amcloud: Thanks again. Your post saved me some headaches.
Ray
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Raux

Quote from: sfarchie on February 12, 2009, 02:59:57 PM
Does the valve with servo exist with the full termis?

Amcloud: Thanks again. Your post saved me some headaches.



doesn't look like the FUll Termi system has the exhaust valve.

ducaticop

i wish i saw this post 30 min ago before i had my whole rear end ripped apart... damn you comp werkes. i had my parts fking powder coated too!
2002 m620ie *sold and missed*
2009 m1100s

ducaticop

ps: anyone know what that damn back pressure valve is for? apparently all it does is get in the way and rob power if the full termi system doesnt have it....

sorry that im pissed. it rained the whole month of june and its finally sunny and my bike is in pieces...
2002 m620ie *sold and missed*
2009 m1100s

z0mb1e_DUC

The R&G one on my 696 also didn't relocate the lock.  It was cheaper than the DP unit, too.  You just can't put the plate as far under the tail.  The R&G doesn't obscure your turn signal from directly behind, tho.

Put the Comp Werkes up in the Parts for Sale section, there are plenty of 696 owners on here.  More every day.  Someone will buy it. 
'09 m696 Dark

Raux

Quote from: ducaticop on July 10, 2009, 06:45:04 AM
ps: anyone know what that damn back pressure valve is for? apparently all it does is get in the way and rob power if the full termi system doesnt have it....

sorry that im pissed. it rained the whole month of june and its finally sunny and my bike is in pieces...

the valve is an emissions thing i am pretty certain. and yes you can get the WHOLE termi pipe kit to get it out. i wouldn't be certain the R&G Tidy tail works for the 1100 either. i would wait til they say they are for it. i'm fairly certain the stock tails are different so there will be fitment issues.

hihhs

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I installed a CW tsil chop on my 1100 and have communicated with Ducaticop about it. I don't recall any issues with the solenoid. Tomorrow I'm going to take mine apart and see if I can figure what is different on mine.


UPDATE;

I think I see the problem. I didn't run into this because I bought mine directly from CW. Some people are being sold a kit that is intended for the 696 for use on the 1100. CW sells one specifically for the 1100
http://secure.compwerkes.com/Detail.bok?no=447
The 1100 kit relocates the lock to the rear of the solenoid.
The included directions should have "09 Ducati Monster 1100" across the top of the page.
Monster 1100

misterburns

What color did you powder coat it Cop?  I'd be interested in buying one of these if the price is right  ;)
M1100s

ducaticop

Quote from: hihhs on July 10, 2009, 02:37:30 PM
I installed a CW tsil chop on my 1100 and have communicated with Ducaticop about it. I don't recall any issues with the solenoid. Tomorrow I'm going to take mine apart and see if I can figure what is different on mine.

thanks for you help man

Quote from: misterburns on July 10, 2009, 05:26:12 PM
What color did you powder coat it Cop?  I'd be interested in buying one of these if the price is right  ;)

matte black. im going to see if i can get just the parts i need from CW. If i do have to buy a whole new kit I will def post the powdercoated 696 kit forsale
2002 m620ie *sold and missed*
2009 m1100s

misterburns

good luck... hope it works out for you.  If not, I'll take it off your hands.
M1100s

freedom

Quote from: Raux on July 10, 2009, 01:03:49 PM
the valve is an emissions thing i am pretty certain. and yes you can get the WHOLE termi pipe kit to get it out. i wouldn't be certain the R&G Tidy tail works for the 1100 either. i would wait til they say they are for it. i'm fairly certain the stock tails are different so there will be fitment issues.

R&G makes one specifically for the 1100 - I have it installed.  Reasonably simple install once you figure out the best way to route the cable for the seat lock.  If your supplier isn't specific just order it direct from R&G.
Mark

2009 M1100
2009 SC1000
1974 CB450

wonshot

Quote from: ducaticop on July 10, 2009, 06:45:04 AM
ps: anyone know what that damn back pressure valve is for? apparently all it does is get in the way and rob power if the full termi system doesnt have it....

sorry that im pissed. it rained the whole month of june and its finally sunny and my bike is in pieces...

Actually the exhaust valve is for decible reduction to pass the DBA ratings for US and Europe.
It serves no other purpose other than that.