Monster 1000 redesign / update

[wbeck257]

As long as they have a dry clutch, I would be ok with that..!!

It won't.

And why is a dry clutch so important. Is it common for you to swap the clutch pack while stopping at a red light?
Or is it the noise? (Read that as, "The same thing Harley guys say about their bikes... thats a Harley sound..." Thats a Ducati sound...)

[Big Troubled Bear]

Heritage is a nice thing, and it works

[Monstermash]

I think you will see the 696 based frame / bodywork faster than you imagined.  Reason is that it is cheaper to manufacture for Ducati in Europe.  Given the 1.54 dollars to 1.0 Euro exchange rate currently (and higher transportation costs for delivery process itself) -- Ducati's are only going to get more expensive every sales quarter.  I'm also figuring you will see wet clutches only on everything except for the top end racebikes or limited edition bikes.  It isn't cost effective to offer two clutch variations on the same engine platform ala DS1100. 

Mark,

I tend to agree with this thought however I think it would be a very bad idea for Ducati to drop the dry clutch. I've heard many many people groan when they heard/saw the 848 with a wet clutch.

I believe it would be alot like the effect of the 749/999 bikes and the deaperture from the SSSA. In the end they would have to change it back to a dry because thats what people want.

I also thing the 696 isn't going to catch on as much as Ducati had hoped. I remember when the first pictures of it started hitting the net and I would say most of the Monster community was horrified. It only got worse for me when I saw the thing in person at the IMS in NY. The quality and the fit and finish was awful. I can only hope it was a pre-production model and now that they are in dealerships they are better.
 

[MotoCreations]

Mark,

I tend to agree with this thought however I think it would be a very bad idea for Ducati to drop the dry clutch.

I also thing the 696 isn't going to catch on as much as Ducati had hoped.

I think you will see the dry clutch on the 1098 series and the replacement for the S4Rs series -- that's it.

As for the 696? (and this "design language")  Wait until a few of us get ahold of one of these (any volunteer in the Seattle area?) and make some cool parts for it.  I've already sketched out nine major parts and will build once I get ahold of one to CMM/Scan to get dimensions.  I honestly think this bike has some great potential.

[monsterduc]

Mark,

I tend to agree with this thought however I think it would be a very bad idea for Ducati to drop the dry clutch. I've heard many many people groan when they heard/saw the 848 with a wet clutch.

I also thing the 696 isn't going to catch on as much as Ducati had hoped. I remember when the first pictures of it started hitting the net and I would say most of the Monster community was horrified. It only got worse for me when I saw the thing in person at the IMS in NY. The quality and the fit and finish was awful. I can only hope it was a pre-production model and now that they are in dealerships they are better.
 

On the dry clutch.  Once the magazines tested it, they found it works better than a dry clutch, is two pounds lighter and complies with Euro noise regulations.  I like dry clutches just fine but who can argue with better performance and less weight?

Your right, the 696 horrified a lot of people around here but Ducati is also keen to lure new Ducatisti.  The 696 is getting good press from every where (it seems) but here.  I still prefer my S2R but I haven't ruled out ever owning a new generation Monster.  If it's a good ride, it's a good ride.   

[SSSA]

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It's hard to argue with this logic, however I think the 696 is REALLY ugly and I won't ride an ugly bike.
Period.
Regardless of how well it outperforms last years model or outweighs(under weighs??) last years model, it won't be that much better.
Unfortunately, I think that mockup drawing a realistic view of things to come.

The 696 still looks like it was designed in China to me.

The Hypermotard still looks like a Duc to me though.

[duc996]

+1...The Hypermotard still looks like a Duc to me though.

[High_Side]

  Bring on the new Monster, wet clutch and all.  If it works as well as the 696 that I tested last weekend it will be a huge step forward.  In my opinon it looks good as well.  If only my GT1000 worked as well as the new 696 outta the crate....

[Monstermash]

I like dry clutches just fine but who can argue with better performance and less weight?

Sometimes it's more about the look more than performance.

Everytime I see a Duc with a wet clutch I think...boring!

I'll trade a few extra onces for dry clutch bling every time! 

[CougarSlayer]

Sometimes it's more about the look more than performance.

Everytime I see a Duc with a wet clutch I think...boring!

I'll trade a few extra onces for dry clutch bling every time! 

Well said Mash and I agree with you 100% why ride a ducati if you dont have a dry noodle.  I was all hyped to trade my s2r1k in for a 848 but as sexy and purdy that thing is probably will never by one new because of its wet noodle. Every other bike out there has a wet noodle the dry noodle makes the ducati unique and one of the reasons we all ride these munsters, and the ducati brand.  If we wanted the fastest best performing bike out there most of us know we would not be riding a ducati.  Ducati is unique special because it has what all the others do not have, character and soul.  I have been looking around for a second scoot and have yet to find anything that gives me the woolies like me old ape baby. 

-panthro

PS I owned a wet noodle for like 2 months then upgraded from the s2r800 to the s2r1k and have been a dry noodle ever since.

[Alex]

It won't.

And why is a dry clutch so important. Is it common for you to swap the clutch pack while stopping at a red light?
Or is it the noise? (Read that as, "The same thing Harley guys say about their bikes... thats a Harley sound..." Thats a Ducati sound...)

Actually yes. I've replaced my clutch two times in the time I've owned my bike......... It took me about 30 minutes per swap. I am not sure, but I'm guessing replacing a wet clutch would have taken more like 10 hours? Oh, and my clutch looks awesome too.

[oppet]

I dont really care about dry clutch, it wears out earlyer and the job to chance discs in both are easy job.
Ok its neat looking but thats it for me, L-motor sound is enough for me.
Thou this is my first duc, and im not one label guy.

[Howie]

Actually yes. I've replaced my clutch two times in the time I've owned my bike......... It took me about 30 minutes per swap. I am not sure, but I'm guessing replacing a wet clutch would have taken more like 10 hours? Oh, and my clutch looks awesome too.

Just a few more fasteners and draining the oil since you need to take the whole side cover off.

[Big Troubled Bear]

The dry clutch must stay, it definitly is not a cost effective step.
Pricing has been released for the 696 in South Africa and it is going to be the equivilant of 10600 US Dollars, that`s almost 2000 US Dollars more than 695

[CougarSlayer]

The dry clutch must stay, it definitly is not a cost effective step.
Pricing has been released for the 696 in South Africa and it is going to be the equivilant of 10600 US Dollars, that`s almost 2000 US Dollars more than 695

And  you getting a wet noodle for 10k no thanks I will pass. 

-panthro