Monster 1000 redesign / update

[clubhousemotorsports]

As others have said, make mine a dry clutch.
I own bikes with each style clutch and I have had pretty much equal reliability. Does the dry clutch get loud with age .. you bet! do I care? nah.

A dry clutch is a link to the world or real race bikes, I remember being at a world superbike event and hearing a dry clutch rattle. I turned to look at what ducati was behind me and it was a hondakawasuzuma .... with a dry clutch! I started looking and a lot of the had them. hmmmmmm.......

what are they using in moto gp?

now this does not mean that I own a race bike but it is something that sets my bike apart from probably 90%  of the other bikes out there.
The newest wet clutch is lighter, given. but dont you think they could put the same effort into making a light dry clutch? the vfr-ducati-cedici has a dry clutch it is pretty light I bet.

Each time Ducati starts to move their bikes more mainstream they move closer to the Japanese bikes and well if I wanted one of those. .....
I would own a bike with lower costs to own with a dealer on every corner. And tons of racing history as well, Ducati is far from the only brand that can win.

I really hope Ducati does not head down the corporate, bean counter , profit driver route too far. I am proud of the success the company has had but fear they are forgetting some of the things that put them there.

[High_Side]

Actually yes. I've replaced my clutch two times in the time I've owned my bike......... It took me about 30 minutes per swap. I am not sure, but I'm guessing replacing a wet clutch would have taken more like 10 hours? Oh, and my clutch looks awesome too.

I won't own a dry clutch......and yet I've never had to change a clutch.....in 33 years of riding.  So understandably the ability to change a clutch in a short amount of time is not a big selling feature...

[jagstang]

It wouldn't bug me if they made the dry clutch exclusive to the upper-end ducs- it'd give me an excuse to buy one!

For me, that dry clutch jingle combined with the intake and exhaust, the whir of the belts, and the valves slapping around is orchestral.  It's not about the clutch by itself, but how it combines with the rest of the bike to offer a unique experience while riding.

[silentbob]

You can also make the same arguments against the desmodromic valve train.  With advances in metallurgy the desmo does not provide any practical advantage on the street compared to a shim under bucket design.  So, it would bring the cost down, it would be easier and cheaper to service, and unless you ride with the valve covers off, no one will ever know.

Another advantage of the dry clutch that no one has mentioned is that it keeps all that nasty friction material from the clutch plates out of your engine oil.

[SSSA]

I agree, Ducati is unique and the changes I see on the 696 are moves towards hondakawasuki.

Next to go is the trellis frame...oh wait that's already half gone on the 696!

Maybe they'll add the monster to the classic line?

[wbeck257]

Next to go is the trellis frame...oh wait that's already half gone on the 696!

It is half gone on the Desmodeci too -- but are you gonna fault that bike for it?

[ryandalling]

Ducati's will still be the bike that most guys drool after. As long as we keep everybody thinking that they are all as expensive as the Desmosedici.    I don't mind the 696... my wife loves it... she can ride it... and I will borrow it some time. As to the clutches.... I like both... and want both.

[Triple J]

Another advantage of the dry clutch that no one has mentioned is that it keeps all that nasty friction material from the clutch plates out of your engine oil.

That's the biggest advantage...and the only important one for a street bike.

I like the bling of the dry, and I like the noise with the lever pulled in.  But honestly, the racket in neutral with the lever out gets on my nerves after a while.  Maybe it's because I commute on my dry clutch MTS every day.    I actually really like the wet clutch in my 848.

Whatever, wet or dry...it's just a clutch IMO.  If I want the bike, then I'll get it. 

[Ohmic]

I have own 4 Ducs thus far. Only the very first one was a wet. The last 3 is dry. The next one i buy will be dry. I will never own or buy any wet Ducati.
Like others have said. I don't want something that looks/feel more mainstream to what 90% street bikes on the market is.  Even if i did why would i buy these new 696 based Monsters? I can get a Hondakawasaksuzikiwhathaveyou and just put a Ducati sticker on it.

696? I'll pass 

[Drunken Monkey]

It does make me wonder if a Ducati Performance Dry Clutch kit will be the "must have" mod of the future 

[Snips]

Good thread.

Back on topic...

I reckon I agree with whoever said that Ducati will wait and see what reaction to the 696 is, though I reckon they're ready to pull the trigger on a Monster with an 848 engine in time for next Spring if the reaction is positive, and an 848 in a 'Classic' if not.

Meanwhile the 1098/848/696 sales should pay the bills and keep the Ducati profile high.

Interesting times.

PS Although I've had my 696 a week, I agree with those that say that Ducati needs to stay different, even if the ways they stay different are not the same as they have been. Air-cooled L-twin with a awesome exhaust note will do for now ;-)

(the 696 sounds much better than my 620, and there's plenty more power too)

[wbeck257]

They won't put an 848 motor in it.

They've never put a current superbike motor in a monster.

[Triple J]

They won't put an 848 motor in it.

They've never put a current superbike motor in a monster.

There's the rumor of a 1098 naked though.  Think it'll be a different bike altogether, and they'll drop the 4-valve Monsters?  Or is it just that...a rumor which will never make it to production? 

[Monstermash]

As others have said, make mine a dry clutch.
I own bikes with each style clutch and I have had pretty much equal reliability. Does the dry clutch get loud with age .. you bet! do I care? nah YUP! It sounds better an better the older it gets!

Fixed it for ya! 

[SSSA]

There's the rumor of a 1098 naked though.  Think it'll be a different bike altogether, and they'll drop the 4-valve Monsters?  Or is it just that...a rumor which will never make it to production? 

If so, than the S2R 1000 would stand alone in styling. That doesn't seem to make sense either.

Here's an interesting drawing:

Found here: http://www.motivemag.com/pub/news/New_Monster_696_rom_Ducati.shtml

The frame looked pretty sweet there, wonder if that drawing was made before or after the frame was decided upon.