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Poll: Lego Visor graphic initial design

Started by BastrdHK, February 18, 2009, 01:43:51 PM

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ghosthound

Quote from: BastrdHK on March 21, 2009, 06:32:23 PM
I agree with the laminate creating a haze.  It is optically clear before it is applied to the vinyl, but the heat used to apply it, as well as heating it when we install it on our visors, causes distortion.  The laminate was intended to preserve the graphic and ease cleaning because it would not allow debris to get trapped in the perforations.  The laminated graphic will last forever, but if you don't feel comfortable riding with it its not worth it.  I am printing the second batch Monday, and I'm going to forgo the lamination process.  I want to ride with it for awhile to see how it performs.
 

trenner,

Do you think an extra inch in height would've given you enough room?

Let me know when that laminated batch is ready... I have no issues with the perforations but its the lamination that makes it hard to see. 

I totally understand the need for the lamination if the application was for the long haul. 

Mojo S2R

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Quote from: ghosthound on March 22, 2009, 01:58:28 AM
Let me know when that laminated batch is ready... I have no issues with the perforations but its the lamination that makes it hard to see. 

I totally understand the need for the lamination if the application was for the long haul. 

Same here.

How hard is it to take off?  I may hold off putting the laminated one on and just get one of the non-laminated ones.

ghosthound

would it be possible to have the laminate come separately? 


ute

trenner,

Do you think an extra inch in height would've given you enough room?


for me an extra inch would have been perfect

trenner

Quote from: ute on March 22, 2009, 02:02:13 PM
trenner,

Do you think an extra inch in height would've given you enough room?

for me an extra inch would have been perfect

If the vinyl had been 6.5" overall height, with that extra material added ONLY to the top (above the eyes) to make it so, it would have been perfect for my application.

BastrdHK

Quote from: Mojo S2R on March 22, 2009, 02:09:52 AM
Same here.

How hard is it to take off?  I may hold off putting the laminated one on and just get one of the non-laminated ones.
Quote from: ghosthound on March 22, 2009, 02:23:06 AM
would it be possible to have the laminate come separately? 



Okay, I think I have come up with a solution.  The laminate does not come off the graphic.  The two materials are heated(melted almost) together.  We could do a clear vinyl separately, like tear offs racers use, but there would still be distortion because the clear layer would be held off the visor by the perforations, creating a space and haziness.  Personally, I haven't tried it, but I doubt its worth the hassle. 

Solution:  I have found clear protective gel that can be sprayed over the graphic during production.  This will protect the ink, but the perforations remain clear.  I also added an inch to the top to aid installation. 

Thanks for your input guys!  Printing the new batch today.

- Will
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ghosthound

Quote from: BastrdHK on March 23, 2009, 08:44:01 PM
Okay, I think I have come up with a solution.  The laminate does not come off the graphic.  The two materials are heated(melted almost) together.  We could do a clear vinyl separately, like tear offs racers use, but there would still be distortion because the clear layer would be held off the visor by the perforations, creating a space and haziness.  Personally, I haven't tried it, but I doubt its worth the hassle. 

Solution:  I have found clear protective gel that can be sprayed over the graphic during production.  This will protect the ink, but the perforations remain clear.  I also added an inch to the top to aid installation. 

Thanks for your input guys!  Printing the new batch today.

- Will

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Quote from: BastrdHK on March 21, 2009, 06:32:23 PM
I agree with the laminate creating a haze.  It is optically clear before it is applied to the vinyl, but the heat used to apply it, as well as heating it when we install it on our visors, causes distortion.  The laminate was intended to preserve the graphic and ease cleaning because it would not allow debris to get trapped in the perforations.  The laminated graphic will last forever, but if you don't feel comfortable riding with it its not worth it.  I am printing the second batch Monday, and I'm going to forgo the lamination process.  I want to ride with it for awhile to see how it performs.

entertaining previous customer discounts for those that want to try out your verson 2.0?  don't get me wrong, it's very high quality, and even my poor sticker application skills were good enough to apply it; i think it would last for a long time.  but that said, i felt unsafe enough that i went out the very next day and bought more visors, as i didn't think this would be smart to be a "daily driver".
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Monstermash

IMO you're just asking for Jonny Law to pull you over and harass you.
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ghosthound

There are a lot of things we do that can provoke that kind of response from "johnny law"...

This just happens to be one of the cooler ones  [laugh]

ducatiz

Quote from: Monstermash on March 24, 2009, 09:06:33 PM
IMO you're just asking for Jonny Law to pull you over and harass you.

somehow, i don't think so.

everyone i've show these pics to breaks out laughing.  it is hard to feel aggressive with that look on your helmet.

part of the problem riding with a full-faced helmet is people can't see your face and know if you're smiling or frowning or if you're an alien or whathaveyou.  wearing this decal makes people think you're smiling.

it certainly cracks me up every time i look at them.
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habitualspeeder

sweet.  just sent payment for 1 from new batch.

thanks!

NorDog

Quote from: Monstermash on March 24, 2009, 09:06:33 PM
IMO you're just asking for Jonny Law to pull you over and harass you.

Yeah, I'm incredulous about that.  Rather, I think it's one reason for John E. Law to give a pass to ALL THE OTHER STUPID STUFF I do that makes him want to pull me over and harass me.

Actually, I look like an old dude (that is, the old dude that I am) even when I'm fully geared up.  I'm convinced this is why I've NOT been pulled over on a number of occasions when I should have.

The Lego/Smiley Visor will only add to this great "package" I am.   [laugh] [moto]
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