race tires danger for new rideR?

redial · March 31, 2009, 10:23:42 AM

Hello all,

Just wondering if i should be apprehensive about getting my new monster (yay) on the road in its current rubber.
It was raining when i went to pick her up, and she has pirelli dragon supercorsas (i think thats the name), The PO
told me that they are meant to run on a hot racetrack and would be hard to handle in the cold street, and like ice in the rain.
I have a bit of experience but its been 5 yrs since i had a bike, and i have a lot of re-learning to do.

well its dry today, and ive ridden her a bit. (very happy) but ive been keeping her upright, terrified to lean over and lose my grip
on the cold race compounds, its in the 50's and low 60's here this time of year. Brand new pirelli diablo SS arrive next tuesday!!
a whole week!!

thoughts?

thanks much in advance. Redialed

DrDesmo · March 31, 2009, 10:25:54 AM

Quote from: redial on March 31, 2009, 10:23:42 AM
Hello all,

Just wondering if i should be apprehensive about getting my new monster (yay) on the road in its current rubber.
It was raining when i went to pick her up, and she has pirelli dragon supercorsas (i think thats the name), The PO
told me that they are meant to run on a hot racetrack and would be hard to handle in the cold street, and like ice in the rain.
I have a bit of experience but its been 5 yrs since i had a bike, and i have a lot of re-learning to do.

well its dry today, and ive ridden her a bit. (very happy) but ive been keeping her upright, terrified to lean over and lose my grip
on the cold race compounds, its in the 50's and low 60's here this time of year. Brand new pirelli diablo SS arrive next tuesday!!
a whole week!!

thoughts?

thanks much in advance. Redialed

If they're Supercorsa Pro's, they are OEM street tires on the 1098S (I believe)

You will probably be fine if that's the case ...

Adam

the_Journeyman · March 31, 2009, 10:27:14 AM

They will probably take more time to warm up than normal tires are not stick well unless they're constantly pushed a bit. Be aware of heavy throttle application while leaned over ~

JM

redial · March 31, 2009, 10:29:33 AM

thanks a lot for the quick replies guys

sounds like ill be fine for the week, taking it easy, until my street rubber gets here

thanks and cheers!

off to ride!!

Spidey · March 31, 2009, 10:30:48 AM

Good on you for getting new tires.

There are a few reasons not to run race tires on the street.

1) Race tires can't get up to temp on the street. Even riding aggressively, you'd be hard pressed to get those to grip as well as a street tire. I've run track take-offs on the street and it's not a great idea. They're ok for commuting, but not ideal in the twisties. I've had some scary slides.

2) The *last* thing you need as a new rider is to lack confidence in your tires. As a new rider, you need to learn to trust your rubber. You'd be shocked at how far over you can lean the bike and still have it stick. But you only get to that level if you have confidence. Having tires on your bike that limit your confidence is just going to hold you back.

3) Being scared on your bike makes it less fun to ride.

4) You'll likely spend more replacing crash damage with a lowside than you will getting new tires.

DrDesmo · March 31, 2009, 11:15:20 AM

More information about your tires ...
http://tinyurl.com/dme3wa

Not really designed for sedate street speeds ...

... Unless you get a pair of tire warmers!

Adam

killerniceguy · March 31, 2009, 11:49:59 AM

Take it very easy on those. If you are going to run them on the street before you get your new ones I would also lower the tire pressure to get the heat up faster.

Quote from: redial on March 31, 2009, 10:23:42 AM
Hello all,

Just wondering if i should be apprehensive about getting my new monster (yay) on the road in its current rubber.
It was raining when i went to pick her up, and she has pirelli dragon supercorsas (i think thats the name), The PO
told me that they are meant to run on a hot racetrack and would be hard to handle in the cold street, and like ice in the rain.
I have a bit of experience but its been 5 yrs since i had a bike, and i have a lot of re-learning to do.

well its dry today, and ive ridden her a bit. (very happy) but ive been keeping her upright, terrified to lean over and lose my grip
on the cold race compounds, its in the 50's and low 60's here this time of year. Brand new pirelli diablo SS arrive next tuesday!!
a whole week!!

thoughts?

thanks much in advance. Redialed

gh0stie · March 31, 2009, 12:22:27 PM

great question OP, thanks for bringing this up.......other new riders like myself can benefit from this kind of info

Spidey · March 31, 2009, 01:00:20 PM

Quote from: killerniceguy on March 31, 2009, 11:49:59 AM
Take it very easy on those. If you are going to run them on the street before you get your new ones I would also lower the tire pressure to get the heat up faster.

They still won't heat up sufficiently at all, particularly if he's a new rider and particularly if it's 50-60 out. There's just no way to get them to operating temps. Think about the lap or two it would take to heat them up on the track at 50-60. You'd be pretty cranked over, turn after turn after turn, with WFO acceleration and hard braking. I bet he (along with the vast majority of us) never ride on the street like that even for a few turns.

Just don't run race tires on the street.

crankmonster · March 31, 2009, 01:06:03 PM

Bring the bike back to the shop and politely ask for your money back, it's obvious you don't need to be riding a motorcycle.

ducpainter · March 31, 2009, 01:10:01 PM

Quote from: crankmonster on March 31, 2009, 01:06:03 PM
Bring the bike back to the shop and politely ask for your money back, it's obvious you don't need to be riding a motorcycle.

Huh?

what's that all about?

DrDesmo · March 31, 2009, 01:13:30 PM

Quote from: crankmonster on March 31, 2009, 01:06:03 PM
Bring the bike back to the shop and politely ask for your money back, it's obvious you don't need to be riding a motorcycle.

Adam

Statler · March 31, 2009, 02:48:21 PM

Quote from: crankmonster on March 31, 2009, 01:06:03 PM
Bring the bike back to the shop and politely ask for your money back, it's obvious you don't need to be riding a motorcycle.

way to help a new rider learn.

sportskid1 · March 31, 2009, 04:55:10 PM

Agreed that these are not the best tires for the street unless you ride very hard. I used to run takeoffs on the street as I could get them really cheap untile I lowsided on them. They were great when really pushing them in the canyons but absolutly horrible when cold. Came out of work late one night, took a right turn at normal speeds, spun up the rear tire up and down I went. Just be careful and you will be fine until your new tires come in.

Porsche Monkey · March 31, 2009, 06:06:11 PM

Quote from: crankmonster on March 31, 2009, 01:06:03 PM
Bring the bike back to the shop and politely ask for your money back, it's obvious you don't need to be riding a motorcycle.

Dude what the make the beast with two backs? Its a very relevant question and he came to the right place to ask. I guess your Gods gift to motorcycling and have never had a question about this sport/lifestyle. Whatever it is get over your power trip.

OP, welcome to the forum and back to the two wheeled world. Race tires bring the suck when cold and given your experience, you will not be able to get them warm enough. The tires you ordered will be perfect for you. Sometimes it sucks having to wait to ride but you'll make it through. Good luck with the new bike.

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