Those involved with accident at AMS

muskrat · April 09, 2009, 10:42:40 PM

Jim, relax and read it again.

he's talking about the car and truck driver.

fastwin · April 10, 2009, 08:20:30 AM

Absolutely, in no way ever, was I referring to you as a low life. It was a general statement regarding the low levels of coverage in the State required insurance. I have had many conversations with friends over the years who have been in wrecks with folks that either had no insurance or they had the minimum level which did not cover the accident costs. Sorry for the confusion. I try real hard not to be a jerk to people I don't know. Just saying.

DLSGAP · April 10, 2009, 08:38:04 AM

Quote from: fastwin on April 10, 2009, 08:20:30 AM
Absolutely, in no way ever, was I referring to you as a low life. It was a general statement regarding the low levels of coverage in the State required insurance. I have had many conversations with friends over the years who have been in wrecks with folks that either had no insurance or they had the minimum level which did not cover the accident costs. Sorry for the confusion. I try real hard not to be a jerk to people I don't know. Just saying.

Ha whatever. get back on your jap bike and get the hell..... oh wait... nevermind....

ok sorry.. had to lighten the mood a little

Duc L'Smart · April 10, 2009, 08:49:09 AM

Quote from: ducatizzzz on April 09, 2009, 06:15:23 PM
If you sue the city over it, it will be dismissed and you will get citations for parking on the sidewalk. My point was that AMS ~~may~~ have ill-advised people to park on the sidewalk.

I don't know the facts, but when they are encouraging people to show up and ~~IF~~ they told them to park in a potentially unsafe way, they could be partly liable.

This has got to be the worst advice, ever, & you obviously have no knowledge of the facts.

The bikes were all legally parked in legitimate parking spaces, not the sidewalk, & in any case the responsibility is totally on the 2 cars.

Please, we already have plenty of frivolous lawsuits clogging the system, lining greedy lawyer's pockets, & making my insurance premiums go up as a result

ducatiz · April 10, 2009, 09:06:00 AM

Quote from: Duc L'Smart on April 10, 2009, 08:49:09 AM
This has got to be the worst advice, ever, & you obviously have no knowledge of the facts.

The bikes were all legally parked in legitimate parking spaces, not the sidewalk, & in any case the responsibility is totally on the 2 cars.

Please, we already have plenty of frivolous lawsuits clogging the system, lining greedy lawyer's pockets, & making my insurance premiums go up as a result

Additional facts were posted after my post. I am not familiar with AMS's parking situation, but in a similar incident in NY, a bike shop event had people parking on the sidewalk and curb in front of the shop. Old lady plowed into the bikes. Several of the bike owners sued the bike shop -- only the ones parked on the sidewalk got money.

Bike shop had the sidewalk (illegally) cordoned off and told ppl to park there.

I'm sorry if it offended you, but it has been a winning argument previously, but here the facts may be different it seems.

Either way, if a business invites people to come to an event and there is some evidence of negligence on their part which causes injury to the invitees, then the business can be held at SOME fault. Texas has a proportional contributory negligence law, so IF a business there is found partially at fault, they can be held accountable.

Like I said though, the facts may be different enough to not warrant recovery.

DLSGAP · April 10, 2009, 09:29:45 AM

given the parking situation at AMS and the events that came to pass that day, I don't see how AMS would be liable for any of it. Any system that holds them to any liability is flawed beyond belief. if that ends up being the case. I'm moving somewhere with a legal system that has a little bit of sense to it

ducatiz · April 10, 2009, 09:35:12 AM

Quote from: DLSGAP on April 10, 2009, 09:29:45 AM
given the parking situation at AMS and the events that came to pass that day, I don't see how AMS would be liable for any of it. Any system that holds them to any liability is flawed beyond belief. if that ends up being the case. I'm moving somewhere with a legal system that has a little bit of sense to it

thank you, Alec Baldwin...

muskrat · April 10, 2009, 11:20:45 AM

if you find a place with "sensible" laws and has some nice twisties then let us all know so we can move there and start another club.

andym · April 10, 2009, 12:14:02 PM

It's not the law's that are a problem it's the culture.

I understand Jim not wanting to be out of pocket and that is why we have to insure ourselves against those who don't, not fair but such is life.

What I do not understand is the thought of suing AMS for what happened, as far as I see it the only ones to blame are the truck and car drivers. AMS are good enough to put on events for our benefit and I'm sure they would soon stop if someone did attempt to sue them.

We all have to make decisions in life and should not go around trying to place blame when something goes wrong. If you feel somewhere being offered as parking is not safe do not park there, don't sue the shop when something goes wrong.

DLSGAP · April 10, 2009, 12:16:05 PM

Quote from: muskrat on April 10, 2009, 11:20:45 AM
if you find a place with "sensible" laws and has some nice twisties then let us all know so we can move there and start another club.

I'm just going to have to become a multi kajillionaire and buy the area around deals gap and make my own sovereign state

ducatiz · April 10, 2009, 12:19:56 PM

Quote from: DLSGAP on April 10, 2009, 12:16:05 PM
I'm just going to have to become a multi kajillionaire and buy the area around deals gap and make my own sovereign state

now that's a great idea

dne1810 · April 10, 2009, 12:20:34 PM

Quote from: muskrat on April 10, 2009, 11:20:45 AM
if you find a place with "sensible" laws and has some nice twisties then let us all know so we can move there and start another club.

that place exists..

google Sealand

DLSGAP · April 10, 2009, 12:43:37 PM

what about the good riding roads though? I doubt an old military fort will offer such luxuries.

fastwin · April 10, 2009, 12:44:37 PM

This is mentioned only as an example of lawsuit goofiness and not intended to be directed at anyone here... end of disclaimer.

My ex-wife worked with an older woman many years ago who slipped and fell (clumsy oaf!!) in a wet parking lot she was walking across in downtown Dallas and broke her ankle. Yep, you guessed it... she got a lawyer and sued the owners of the parking lot and settled out of court for surgery costs and plenty of cash. She got pissed at me for criticizing her actions.

What a world...

muskrat · April 10, 2009, 01:05:45 PM

again, revoke licenses of these "Attorney's" and we're all set. here's an example of a bullshit lawsuit
http://www.jimadler.com/yamaha-rhino-accident-lawyer.html

some people are just IDIOTS and should know better. there should be an IQ test for people buying stuff, hate to say it, no I don't.

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