2009 World Superbike Round 5 - Monza (Race Spoilers)

[derby]

Too bad Haga got hit by a bird. No one is saying, Ben won race 2 because of a little help from a bird.

mebbe that's cause he had fabrizio and haga beat, convincingly, until he ran outta gas. ben was gonna win race 2 no matter what.

[gm2]

If you cook your tires pushing hard, if you run out of gas,

not both in the within-the-rider's-control category

[ducpainter]

someone tell Mladin to STFU...

if he wants a say in WSBK he should have gotten off his gravy train and gone to Europe.

[derby]

someone tell Mladin to STFU...

if he wants a say in WSBK he should have gotten off his gravy train and gone to Europe.

quit your whinin' old man...

he's talking about sports in general.

Tennis almost takes the cake for this topic.

and, fwiw, mladin went to europe as part of his cagiva stint in 500gp.

[Desmostro]

mebbe that's cause he had fabrizio and haga beat, convincingly, until he ran outta gas. ben was gonna win race 2 no matter what.

...no matter what unless he ran out of gas

Sorry I'm being a pain.
Go Ben!

[Cider]

I agree with Mat's blog for the most part, but for some reason I find it strange that he's giving people advice on humility.

[ducpainter]

quit your whinin' old man...

he's talking about sports in general.

Tennis almost takes the cake for this topic.

and, fwiw, mladin went to europe as part of his cagiva stint in 500gp.

Listen punk.... 

Why'd he come back?

Couldn't hang with the big boys?

[gm2]

Why'd he come back?

too early, basically

[ducpainter]

too early, basically

for what...

dollars?

[Triple J]

not both in the within-the-rider's-control category

Must be somewhat, right? I doubt they let him start with more gas in the 2nd race.

Mladin sounds like a whiner to me. It for sure sucks what happened to Ben, and he deserved to win that race...but Fabrizio won his first WSBK race, so he can celebrate. A win is a win...and that's racing IMO.

[derby]

for what...

dollars?

he was barely in his 20s (21, iirc) and had only started roadracing 2 years earlier.

he just simply wasn't ready for the politics of his situation and, when he parted ways with the team, he was pretty much ready to quit racing altogether.

[BastrdHK]

World Superbikes at Monza 2009 Terrible Start Accident

Wow...thanks!

Poor Max

[gm2]

Must be somewhat, right? I doubt they let him start with more gas in the 2nd race.

fuel economy is the job of the electronics and a lot of planning for each race by the tech nerds.

...remember this recently happened to nicky hayden just last year (or was it '07?), also within sight of the finish line.

[Desmostro]

for sure, however,
Stoner said at the Qatar interview he had control of the fuel economy on board.
He dialed the economy up until everyone started catching him, then he turned it off and won.
Then there's the thingy on the right handlebar we call the throttle 

Nicky passed Colin who'd run out of gas just before the finish line ('06?) Then Colin passed Nicky when Nicky ran out in later season in '08.
Pay back happens.

fuel economy is the job of the electronics and a lot of planning for each race by the tech nerds.

...remember this recently happened to nicky hayden just last year (or was it '07?), also within sight of the finish line.

[derby]

for sure, however,
Stoner said at the Qatar interview he had control of the fuel economy on board.
He dialed the economy up until everyone started catching him, then he turned it off and won.
Then there's the thingy on the right handlebar we call the throttle 

yeah, but you still have to know that fuel economy is an issue. if your team tells you you're fine on fuel, then you should be able to assume you're fine on fuel, right?

after race 1, ben addressed the issue by taking the two pre-race laps "easy" and short shifting throughout the race.

Nicky passed Colin who'd run out of gas just before the finish line ('06?) Then Colin passed Nicky when Nicky ran out in later season in '08.
Pay back happens.

colin didn't run out of gas in assen '06, he (and nicky) ran across the gravel in the final chicane and nicky managed to keep his bike upright.

nicky did run out of gas in assen '08.

for the most part, it's the team's job to give the rider a bike that's going to finish the race. i don't see how you can fault the rider for a mechanical, electrical, or fuel issue.