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Started by gm2, September 23, 2009, 02:53:56 PM

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http://www.crash.net/british+superbikes/news/152566/1/bsb_announces_new_evolution_class_for_2010.html

The new class will be introduced next season alongside existing full FIM World Championship specification Superbikes and is planned to encourage new rider, team and manufacturer participation...
Like this is the racing, no?

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My Vices
'09 1198s,red, (Il Diavolo Rosso
'09 KTM 690 SMC (Thumpy)
'04 Yamaha FZ1, The Blue Cockroach
'01 900SS, custom yellow, (The Bumblebee)
'05 MS4R, blue

superjohn

Oh c'mon!! Everyone knows the best way to start a new series is waltz in like you're ordained by the divine to rule over 2 wheeled sport, alienate the supliers of the funds for the series (without an alternative), alienate the fans with a ridiculous "WWF Wrestling" style TV package, and actively seek to promote the "national" brand.

Now, How can I get British TV? Is there a satellite package or something?

zooom

this tidbit alone give me hope as it puts the traction control back into the right wrist and makes the riders seem more like pilots than operators in terms of seeing them ride the s**t out of the bikes in varying styles....

"...Along with standard engines, a series specified control ECU device that eliminates any form of traction control, launch control and anti-wheelie devices will be compulsory..."

and this kinda adds weight to my thought and most spectators as well I'd bet...and gives hope to aspiring classes of racers too in terms of scraping together to go racing in a series above them if they are fast enough to qualify..

“By radically grasping the issue of electronics we will eliminate a significant cost and regain some of the spectacle that fans and riders are clearly missing. "

my only thought in regards to the challenge with this is in regards how it will affect some machines that are evolutionarily being designed with the electronic aids to tame the beasts they create and make them more rideable and how they will perform without those aids...

any way you slice it, it'll be interesting!

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desmoquattro

Quote from: zooom on September 24, 2009, 05:47:54 AM
this tidbit alone give me hope as it puts the traction control back into the right wrist and makes the riders seem more like pilots than operators in terms of seeing them ride the s**t out of the bikes in varying styles....

"...Along with standard engines, a series specified control ECU device that eliminates any form of traction control, launch control and anti-wheelie devices will be compulsory..."

and this kinda adds weight to my thought and most spectators as well I'd bet...and gives hope to aspiring classes of racers too in terms of scraping together to go racing in a series above them if they are fast enough to qualify..

“By radically grasping the issue of electronics we will eliminate a significant cost and regain some of the spectacle that fans and riders are clearly missing. "

my only thought in regards to the challenge with this is in regards how it will affect some machines that are evolutionarily being designed with the electronic aids to tame the beasts they create and make them more rideable and how they will perform without those aids...

any way you slice it, it'll be interesting!

It's definitely a gray area. Would such a rule eliminate bikes like the 1198s if it were applied to superbike-style classes? Where is the line between simple power mapping (a la PCIII) and wheelie control/traction control? And if there's a control ECU, won't teams find other ways to engineer around that now-static variable?

Then again, these guys aren't talking about dyno'ing bikes after every race ;D
My Vices
'09 1198s,red, (Il Diavolo Rosso
'09 KTM 690 SMC (Thumpy)
'04 Yamaha FZ1, The Blue Cockroach
'01 900SS, custom yellow, (The Bumblebee)
'05 MS4R, blue

zooom

Quote from: desmoquattro on September 24, 2009, 06:12:18 AM
Then again, these guys aren't talking about dyno'ing bikes after every race ;D

YET!!!....and they aren't talking about tearing down top finishers motors for to inspect specifications either....so it is anybodies ballgame...
99 Cagiva Gran Canyon-"FOR SALE", PM for details.
98 Monster 900(trackpregnant dog-soon to be made my Fiancee's upgrade streetbike)
2010 KTM 990 SM-T

desmoquattro

Quote from: zooom on September 24, 2009, 06:30:45 AM
YET!!!....and they aren't talking about tearing down top finishers motors for to inspect specifications either....so it is anybodies ballgame...

Just wait till they eliminate right turns.
My Vices
'09 1198s,red, (Il Diavolo Rosso
'09 KTM 690 SMC (Thumpy)
'04 Yamaha FZ1, The Blue Cockroach
'01 900SS, custom yellow, (The Bumblebee)
'05 MS4R, blue