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Started by cyrus buelton, October 19, 2009, 05:38:59 AM

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Yeah, and what's 13% of that? That's just for administrative overhead! The military supports Combined Federal Campaign. We are advised strongly to avoid charities that have more than 10% overhead...
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In my opinion, Hospice is the greatest organization.


that group allowed two of my grandparents to pass on peacefully.

What a wonderful compassionate organization.



I also like donating to Planned Parenthood, but that topic is risky since they do support abortion (choice) and that is a touchy religious, political topic.
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Quote from: Mr. Exact on October 19, 2009, 06:32:43 AM
Yeah, and what's 13% of that? That's just for administrative overhead! The military supports Combined Federal Campaign. We are advised strongly to avoid charities that have more than 10% overhead...

How many charities will meet that requirement?

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Quote from: Randimus Maximus on October 19, 2009, 06:34:11 AM
How many charities will meet that requirement?

Literally hundreds...

edit:

https://www.cfcnca.org/donate/?results&s=LNI&o=0,10

over 1500
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Quote from: Randimus Maximus on October 19, 2009, 06:34:11 AM
How many charities will meet that requirement?

I would think a lot would.


I am sure the Red Cross doesn't.

make the beast with two backs that group, I will never support them. EVER.
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Quote from: cyrus buelton on October 19, 2009, 06:31:09 AM
Ok, I'll make it really easy to understand

On their "financials" (which I wouldn't call shit, as it is nothing like a typical S4 filing) they say 87% goes to their cause, leaving 13% unaccounted for.

Their "administrative" costs are 27mm a year.


That is pretty high considering it is a non-for profit which volunteers do all the work, right?


That's like saying the ceo of a financial shouldn't get paid because secretaries do all the "work"

so....in 2008 over 98 million in research, 134 million in education, 37 million in screening, 22 million in treatment services.  clearly they should all burn in hell.   Even if someone is living a little high on the hog to get that, how does that compare to what you have done to help ?
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Quote from: ducpainter on October 19, 2009, 07:01:49 AM
That's like saying the ceo of a financial shouldn't get paid because secretaries do all the "work"

so....in 2008 over 98 million in research, 134 million in education, 37 million in screening, 22 million in treatment services.  clearly they should all burn in hell.   Even if someone is living a little high on the hog to get that, how does that compare to what you have done to help ?

Administrative costs aren't secretaries, it is the cost to do business (executives, staff, office space, etc, etc)


The problem is is they sell themselves as Komen for the Cure.


Look at the numbers you wrote above and see if that makes any sense.

They donate only 25% to research.

That is bullshit.
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Quote from: cyrus buelton on October 19, 2009, 07:06:44 AM
Administrative costs aren't secretaries, it is the cost to do business (executives, staff, office space, etc, etc)


The problem is is they sell themselves as Komen for the Cure.


Look at the numbers you wrote above and see if that makes any sense.

They donate only 25% to research.

That is bullshit.
Secretaries aren't staff?     ???

So contact them and tell them their funding priorities are wrong. That's way different than the image you're trying to portray.

BTW reaserch is a bigger cash cow than charities IMO.


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Quote from: ducpainter on October 19, 2009, 07:15:24 AM
Secretaries aren't staff?     ???

So contact them and tell them their funding priorities are wrong. That's way different than the image you're trying to portray.

BTW reaserch is a bigger cash cow than charities IMO.



No, they are. Not sure what you were saying?



I have emailed them.


They won't respond.
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Quote from: Mr. Exact on October 19, 2009, 06:36:13 AM
Literally hundreds...

edit:

https://www.cfcnca.org/donate/?results&s=LNI&o=0,10

over 1500

Let me re-phrase that...

How many high profile, well-known organizations?

And yes, there certainly is justification to support the smaller orgs. 

I've got to go catch a flight.

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I don't have any problem with the SGK foundation.

It would seem they're a little bloated as an organization, but one could argue this comes from their success. So they have 3%-5% more overhead than some other charities. Does it matter if they raise 5X the amount of money for their cause?

The people running the organization should be allowed to make money...just like the people doing research.

I also don't mind seeing the pink everywhere. It's a good cause. The more it is out there, the more people will be aware. If you don't like SKG, or the pink thing, then donate elsewhere.

Regarding cure vs. treatment. Early detection is the key to surviving cancer. Until there is a cure it makes sense to support education, screening, and treatment...as well as research.

You sound like Chris Rock, who has joked for years that the treatment is too profitable for a cure. I know it looks that way, but I seriously doubt it. The fact is these are very tough diseases to cure.



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Quote from: cyrus buelton on October 19, 2009, 07:18:37 AM


No, they are. Not sure what you were saying?



I have emailed them.


They won't respond.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on October 19, 2009, 07:06:44 AM
Administrative costs aren't secretaries, it is the cost to do business (executives, staff, office space, etc, etc)


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I'm not sure what you're saying either.

Maybe they get more than one email a day and yours isn't on the top of the list. ;)

I need to go to a part of the house to make a couple of bucks.

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Quote from: Randimus Maximus on October 19, 2009, 07:21:07 AM
Let me re-phrase that...

How many high profile, well-known organizations?

And yes, there certainly is justification to support the smaller orgs.  

I've got to go catch a flight.

Ahh, I thought you were talking in total for CFC. Yes, a lot of them are smaller, local organizations that have submitted applications and been accepted.
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Quote from: Triple J on October 19, 2009, 07:33:40 AM
You sound like Chris Rock, who has joked for years that the treatment is too profitable for a cure. I know it looks that way, but I seriously doubt it. The fact is these are very tough diseases to cure.

Look how many people would be out of jobs if cancer was cured?


I had this conversation with Uncle who just survived a bout with Leukemia.


He thinks there is no reason to find a cure when scientists and these organizations keep generating revenue.

Quote from: ducpainter on October 19, 2009, 07:38:05 AM
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