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2009 MotoGP Round 17 - Valencia (Qualifying spoilers)

Started by Speeddog, October 26, 2009, 12:55:17 PM

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Speeddog

Well, might as well start the what-if scenarios here.  ;D

What is the situation with the bike for Spies?
Does he have to use a previously sealed motor, or? ? ?

Edwards want 5th from Dovi.
4 point gap, seems it's all on the table.

Stoner wants 3rd from Pedrosa.
11 point gap, Pedrobot has his work cut out for him.



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his engine allocation doesn't come out of yamaha's "limit" but I would assume it has to be sealed.. or just approved or whatever, before they stick it in the bike.  what i don't know is whether or not he could (economics aside, which makes this unlikely) theoretically use several engines over the course of the weekend.

interesting question however if the tech 3 bikes really have been de-tuned like colin claims and if therefore ben's bike is in fact faster.  you KNOW jt feels like he's gotta beat ben..   [evil]
Like this is the racing, no?

Spidey

Is Ben riding a third Tech III bike or just some "other" Yamaha they give him as a wildcard?  I don't remember.
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My predictions:

  • Someone from the DMF goes to the race, posts something about how awesome the food is. Derby finds this thread and calls it a derby.
  • Spies upends Edwards from his usual 5th place in the race.
  • Hayden starts off a every interview response with "Yeah man..."
  • Stoner kicks Pedrobot's arse at his home race ;D
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gm2

Quote from: Spidey on October 26, 2009, 01:09:08 PM
Is Ben riding a third Tech III bike or just some "other" Yamaha they give him as a wildcard?  I don't remember.

it's just A Yamaha, i believe.  don't know what livery he'll have.
Like this is the racing, no?

Spidey

Quote from: Spidey on October 26, 2009, 01:09:08 PM
Is Ben riding a third Tech III bike or just some "other" Yamaha they give him as a wildcard?  I don't remember.

Nevermind.  Google and crash.net answered my question:

"The World Superbike title contender, confirmed at Monster Yamaha Tech 3 for 2010, will 'participate as a single rider entry of a Yamaha Factory Racing Team, using YZR-M1 test bikes brought over from Japan' at the Spanish event."

http://www.crash.net/MOTOGP/News/153091/1/ben_spies_to_race_valencia_motogp.html
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derby

Quote from: Spidey on October 26, 2009, 01:09:08 PM
Is Ben riding a third Tech III bike or just some "other" Yamaha they give him as a wildcard?  I don't remember.

(full) factory test bike.
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Spidey

Imagine if The Ben had to share a garage with Toseland at Tech III.  That'd be like if Toseland stole The Ben's crew chief during the off-season and then they had to share a garage.  Man, that'd be tense.

;D
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derby

Quote from: Speeddog on October 26, 2009, 12:55:17 PM

Well, might as well start the what-if scenarios here.  ;D


i was going to wait until all the post-weekend race discussions settled down to hopefully avoid spoilers of said races.

you gonna keep the thread title updated over the course of the weekend?  ;D
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there's at least one "spies over edwards" bet for the weekend... any other takers?

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=24757.msg541953#msg541953

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Spidey

Quote from: derby on October 26, 2009, 01:19:51 PM
there's at least one "spies over edwards" bet for the weekend... any other takers?

I'll get in on that.  $25 says Spies over Edwards.   ;) 

[laugh]
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derby

Quote from: Spidey on October 26, 2009, 01:23:00 PM
I'll get in on that.  $25 says Spies over Edwards.   ;) 

[laugh]

oh, so NOW you're a spies fan.  [laugh]
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Quote from: Spidey on October 26, 2009, 01:23:00 PM
I'll get in on that.  $25 says Spies over Edwards.   ;)  

[laugh]

why don't you just go ahead and make that donation now...  [cheeky]
Like this is the racing, no?

Speeddog

#14
The way Toseland's been going lately, I think The Ben is going to mop the floor with him.  ;D

I suspect Ben's bikes are going to be set to 'Full Tilt Boogie'.
I don't think the engines are really 'worth' all that much, assuming the 2010 motors are totally new.

Toseland and Edwards may only have some pretty tired motors left.

Quote from: derby on October 26, 2009, 01:18:41 PM
i was going to wait until all the post-weekend race discussions settled down to hopefully avoid spoilers of said races.

you gonna keep the thread title updated over the course of the weekend?  ;D

Dang. I guess I'm gonna have to.  :P
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