2011 Silly Season

[gm2]

The question, in my mind, is will Preziosi leave his ego at home and allow the boys to work their magic?

i'm sure the rossi contract says, in essence: here's lots of money; we'll do whatever you need to win.  when you leave we want an italian M1.

[Triple J]

So how does this fit in?

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/MotoGP/2010/June/jun3010-burgess-i-hope-rossi-doesnt-leave/_/R-EPI-125093

Burgess --> "I have anticipated for a while that Valentino would renew his contract there, or go to F1 if the third Ferrari is possible, but I don't know if anything has changed that.

"I enjoy working at Yamaha and it has been the most enjoyable period of my whole career in Grand Prix racing.

"I see no reason for me, and I hope Valentino, to walk away from seven years of successful work."

Will Burgess go wherever Rossi goes?

[gm2]

So how does this fit in?

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/....

well, it's MCN.

that said, i have a hard time imagining rossi going anywhere without JB.

[ducpainter]

well, it's MCN.

that said, i have a hard time imagining rossi going anywhere without JB.

...and I have a hard time imagining it hasn't already been discussed between them.

[desmoquattro]

...and I have a hard time imagining it hasn't already been discussed between them.

...and I have a hard time seeing Burgess not go with Rossi when he decides to leave

I suspect it's a done deal from Rossi's perspective...and he's just trying to bring Burgess along with him. Of course, I won't put it past Ducati to not screw this thing up somehow...

[zooom]

so, in other Ducati oriented sillyness...what do you think the chances are of Checa replacing Haga on the factory Ducati for next year?

[gm2]

so, in other Ducati oriented sillyness...what do you think the chances are of Checa replacing Haga on the factory Ducati for next year?

i'ma guess that corse has had enough of hiring the old dudes.  unless the 1198 is entering a GP8/9-like time and no one wants it.

Smrz is a likely candidate.  tho nori says he is years from retiring.

[zooom]

i'ma guess that corse has had enough of hiring the old dudes.  unless the 1198 is entering a GP8/9-like time and no one wants it.

Smrz is a likely candidate.  tho nori says he is years from retiring.

yeah, but giving away the championship last year to the Ben and then being the suck this year I am sure doesn't exactly instill confidence in your employer to renew your contract...

[gm2]

http://superbikeplanet.com/2010/Jul/100701a.htm

[Spidey]

http://superbikeplanet.com/2010/Jul/100701a.htm

They've kept a very positive public face on their relationship, but behind closed doors Rossi and Lorenzo have, at best, a very tepid working relationship. That said, the atmosphere of a race team and accompanying high stakes means that teammates rarely become truly friendly. Former Ducati race boss Eraldo Ferracci put it best, after seeing one of his riders chatting with a rival rider. He chastised him, saying, "The only reason you should be over there is to try and (have sex with) his girlfriend."

   

[gm2]

yeah, i thought that was more pertinent than the JB thing too.  

[derby]

yeah, but giving away the championship last year to the Ben and then being the suck this year I am sure doesn't exactly instill confidence in your employer to renew your contract...

giving away? seriously?

[Jester]

http://superbikeplanet.com/2010/Jul/100701a.htm

I think the most important piece of that is: "Rossi (31) has only worked with one crewchief for the entirety of his 500/MotoGP career and that man, Jeremy Burgess, said recently on Australian television that he will follow "his rider" wherever he goes, including, presumably, Ducati."

[ducpainter]

http://superbikeplanet.com/2010/Jul/100701a.htm

I thought this was pertinent...

In his book "What If I Hadn't Tried It" Rossi wrote that when he left Honda he was courted by both Ducati and Yamaha, but he found the atmosphere at Ducati's MotoGP program to be more like the Honda one he was leaving, where engineers are king and riders are tools, inferring that Ducati is purely an engineering firm and not as "rider friendly" as he would have liked. Has that changed since Rossi last spoke to Ducati?

[DanTheMan]

I thought this was pertinent... Has that changed since Rossi last spoke to Ducati? [/i]

I would venture to say yes their attitude has changed. At the time Ducati was a new player in the game. Their a little more established now and have an idea that the rider is important. Developing a bike for Nicky is proof. But otoh they didn't listen to Melandri.