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Started by Dockstrada, April 10, 2010, 10:37:58 PM

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Dockstrada


I noticed that my front wheel on my 1198 is almost imposable to spin after I come in from the track.
seems to be my calipers locking the wheel........any ideas  ???
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mattyvas

Well used brakes pads that are pushed far out by the pistons and pressing on the disc(s) ???

Dockstrada

Quote from: mattyvas on April 10, 2010, 10:45:59 PM
Well used brakes pads that are pushed far out by the pistons and pressing on the disc(s) ???

Just fitted new pads, the OEM ones were shagged after 1200km.
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loony888

did you fit the right ones?
a lot of brands offer different thickness of material dependant on what rotor you are using, chances are you have fitted the thicker pads by mistake.

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I would say a new set of seals for the calipers
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Dockstrada

Quote from: loony888 on April 10, 2010, 11:35:44 PM
did you fit the right ones?
a lot of brands offer different thickness of material dependant on what rotor you are using, chances are you have fitted the thicker pads by mistake.

paul.


The Pads fitted came from my D16 which were used for 4 or 5 track days ,I do recall the 1198 starting to grab with the OEM pads just before i changed them.
I'm thinking the fluid is getting hot and expanding in the lines.I have changed it once but only with standard DOT4.
May look at Motul 660 factory line has a 325â,,ƒ boiling point .
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loony888

looks like they're the same calipers, therefore the same pads (oe) between the two bikes, did you fit left inside to left inside, left outside to left outside etc? the uneven wear from the D16 will cause them to not sit right unless they go into the caliper in the correct sequence.
doubt the fluid is the problem, change it regularly though, especially if you do track days but remember, the higher the DOT rating the more hydroscopic it is and therefore requires changing very regularly to avoid corrosion damage to components from water in the system.

paul.



HERE AND NOW                      12 DIAVEL AMG
                                              93 888 RS
                                              09 1098R BAYLISS
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Nickati

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Dockstrada

Quote from: loony888 on April 11, 2010, 12:24:08 AM
looks like they're the same calipers, therefore the same pads (oe) between the two bikes, did you fit left inside to left inside, left outside to left outside etc? the uneven wear from the D16 will cause them to not sit right unless they go into the caliper in the correct sequence.
doubt the fluid is the problem, change it regularly though, especially if you do track days but remember, the higher the DOT rating the more hydroscopic it is and therefore requires changing very regularly to avoid corrosion damage to components from water in the system.

paul.





Cant say I did the right sequence as they were in the tool box, so they would have gone in randomly.In any case the problem was evident before I installed the new pads .
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Dockstrada

Quote from: Nickati on April 11, 2010, 12:30:23 AM
No sticky slides or pins ??

Nah gave them a clean before fitting the new pads,Also pushed the pistons back with out a problem. I must admit I have been changing them on a front stand and not a head stock stand and not setting the front down before nipping everything up, This could also be the issue.
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Nickati

That assembly procedure shouldn't really matter.
Check the holes where the pins go aren't binding, they may be elongated or out of round ???
Can't be much more than that.
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Dockstrada

Quote from: Nickati on April 11, 2010, 12:58:01 AM
That assembly procedure shouldn't really matter.
Check the holes where the pins go aren't binding, they may be elongated or out of round ???
Can't be much more than that.

What "Holes" and "Pins" we talking about  ???
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Nickati

The ones that hold the pads in
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Dockstrada

Quote from: Nickati on April 11, 2010, 01:36:51 AM
The ones that hold the pads in


It dosen't have pins it has springs on top  ???
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Dockstrada

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Quote from: Dockstrada on April 11, 2010, 01:39:22 AM


It dosen't have pins it has springs steel retainers on top  ???


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