696 Mapping probs

[SolidSnake3035]

Wow that's really nice looking! 

I hope your problems get worked out soon...

[nkryptit]

Thanks!  I'm going in for my first service next week Thursday,  I'll let ya'll know if I find out anything new after that.

[silentbob]

Sorry to get off topic here, but do you mind if I ask what you do so I know what to major in???

I'm a professional bike sitter.

[Snips]

I have a stock 696, now with 900 miles on, carefully broke-in and serviced at 600 miles.

Once warmed, I've only seen between 3 bars and 4 bars (it does fluctuate between those, depending on load & speed (for cooling). This is at cool Summer temps (50s to 70s F)

[monster696]

Baseline:  300mi on my total stocker - 44mpg.

380 miles and averaging 47mpg with stock pipes. Never seen temp gauge pegged and riding in only 95+ deg temps

[NAK3D696]

I have a stock 696, now with 900 miles on, carefully broke-in and serviced at 600 miles.

Once warmed, I've only seen between 3 bars and 4 bars (it does fluctuate between those, depending on load & speed (for cooling). This is at cool Summer temps (50s to 70s F)

Isnt this just a US thing?   I pick mine up next week(w/ c-termies) and all this killed the excitement.   You buy the best you expect the best. I hope they get this resolved 

[wbeck257]

You buy the best you expect the best. I hope they get this resolved 

No offense, but I wouldn't consider the entry level monster "the best".

We will just have to wait and see how widespread this issue is. Also, how Ducati will address it. They kind of swept the S2R 1000 issue under the rug and never have offered a fix or really adknowedge it technically. However, the 1098 stalling issue was fixed with a recall. That puts them at 1 - 1 with fueling issues on these new o2 bikes....

[gearhead]

 My 696 has always runs between 3-4 bars on the temp gauge. Also my dealer said the bike should be hooked up to an analyzer to be set finally. I haven't had mine on one yet but it doesn't run like some on here. Did you guys get your tuned at the dealership and if so, what is their responce?

[NAK3D696]

No offense, but I wouldn't consider the entry level monster "the best".

We will just have to wait and see how widespread this issue is. Also, how Ducati will address it. They kind of swept the S2R 1000 issue under the rug and never have offered a fix or really adknowedge it technically. However, the 1098 stalling issue was fixed with a recall. That puts them at 1 - 1 with fueling issues on these new o2 bikes....

Guess I wasnt specific enough for you "Ducati" ( referring to the best) as opposed to honda , yamaha, kaw etc...   

[onederer]

alot of the same issues the 696 has, the 695 had before it.
I would have thought they would have ironed out the issue.

as for a fix coming from Ducati? Don't hold your breath. Nothing was done for the S2R 1000, nothing was done for the 695 and nothing will likely be done for the 696.

[NWapex]

alot of the same issues the 696 has, the 695 had before it.
I would have thought they would have ironed out the issue.

as for a fix coming from Ducati? Don't hold your breath. Nothing was done for the S2R 1000, nothing was done for the 695 and nothing will likely be done for the 696.

I thought the DP package (pipes, ECU, airbox) was a "fix" of sorts for the 695 fueling issues although not an official acknowledgment by Ducati of the problem.  I am concerned to hear the fueling issues on the 696 appear to be occurring on bikes that have the termi pipes installed...

[onederer]

That's why i didn't label it as a fix coming from Ducati.
the termi and ecu will fix the issue but at a cost...and a hefty one at that. roughly 18% of the original cost of the motorcycle.

Now a software fix or replacement ECU on Ducati would be the most desirable fix.
I hope it gets fixed for all, I see it as a safety issue. When the stutter happens at low/medium speed while rolling on in a turn it CAN unsettle the suspension.

Now even with the Kit, the 696 still has issues. That's just bad juju.
Lots of other brands are having fueling issues as well. And doing little about it. So it seems that it is just the norm for lots of the motorcycle industry to just ignore it as they probably just figure that the riders are going monkey with the bike any ways.

[Dave R]

guys I am certain DNA/Ducati will come up with a solution soon..  Biggest part of the equation is that this is the first bike with Siemens FI vs Weber Marelli as all other Ducati FI bikes use.  Also add to the equation that it remains a closed loop FI system with stock or DP pipes, hence the minimal to no adjustments available..  There is a slight learning curve here with a new model.  Ducati is counting on this model so I can promise you the best of the best techs out there are working on sorting the small handful of problem bikes that have surfaced

[NWapex]

It is my understanding from posts elsewhere, the 695 fueling problems were, in some cases, handled with the Ducati covered brown-goo warranty fix.  I believe I read that some 695 owners received the new engine mapping at no cost when the warranty repair to the heads were dealt with.  It appeared this was not handled uniformly.  Maybe an internal Ducati NA memo exists regarding this.  Maybe some individual shops thinking that repeated warranty fixes would be required decided on this course.  I hope Ducati comes up with a fix, but tend to agree with Onederer that we may not see an official fix.

[IdZer0]

I think you need to take into account that both the 695 and presumably the S2R1000 engine are going to be phased out on short term. Ducati probably didn't want to invest much more in those engines; hence no real solution. The 696 on the other hand is going to stay for a while, and one would hope therefore they would invest more to resolve the problems of this engine.