696 rebuild - on the road & stage 2

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FRICKING clutch won't bleed, air is trapped again.
OIL leak still not stopped on the horizontal cam cover

wife says "it's because you take that thing apart too much"

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wife says "it's because you take that thing apart too much"

That's a surprise....HA! Lol

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That's a surprise....HA! Lol

hey where are the pics of the parts and guzzi?

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Cleaning and touchups  

Wife wants her garage back.

[danaid]

  Get that bike back together so you can start tearing down that ST 2   

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so I've got it back together.
pics of the pretty Monster in the morning.



oh.. for those of you using zero rise clipons, try using the stock or low seat.
I've found the extra height of the comfort seat was part of the cause of my extreme angle. an extra 20mm or so made a huge difference just sitting on the bike
gonna ride the stock seat for a week to see the difference on the road.

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I posted on my ST thread, but the Monster deserves some love...

Took a ride on the Monster today.

While the ST is nice. I think i've I forgot how refined I made the Monster.

The clutch (being wet) is smoother on engagement and (being APTC) smoother on decel. The throttle with the Eleactron cam is tight and quick. Add the lightweight flywheel and it's just a rocket through the revs. And it really engine brakes well. The ST if you roll off the throttle it just keeps rolling and you HAVE to stab the brakes to slow down.

Which for brakes, the monster is a BEAST. The ST stockers scare me sometimes, i even overshot a into town ess curve they have to slow traffice down (luckily the exit is straight). Not sure if it's the older rubber lines or the brake calipers. The Monster with the radial brakes and braided lines just GRAB the Braking rotors. The ST hold on for dear life it seems.

Ergos, Even the monster stock seat is more comfortable. And now using the lower stock on the monster, the reach is damn near the same as the ST. I just sit more upright on the ST.
The shifter is better positioned on the monster as well as rear brake, not sure if that's the S&P rearsets or the poor ST setup.

And I've smoothed out the bike so much with DP ECU and PC V that the bike can use any throttle position without sputtering. The ST, sputters at 0-10% throttle around town.

The ST does have the room and storage and wind protection. Yesterday was full on raining and I didnt have to stop to put on rain paints. just a middle dampness in on the jeans. The Monster I would have been soaked.
The two up riding is damn near impossible on the Monster as well with the clipons and rearsets compared to the ST.

The ST has that smoother cruising motor. 6k rpm in 6th gear is just soooooo smooth on the autobahn.
AND of course the wife loves riding the ST together.

Definitely two very different bikes.

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I just noticed that you gave the bar end mirrors the flick..... 

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I just noticed that you gave the bar end mirrors the flick..... 

too much head movement. but i need to readjust them. seeing elbows again.

[ungeheuer]

best vision I ever had was with the Rizoma bar ends on my 696...

... I prefer the look of the mirrors on stalks though... even though all I see is my elbows 

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I posted on my ST thread, but the Monster deserves some love...

Took a ride on the Monster today.

While the ST is nice. I think i've I forgot how refined I made the Monster.

The clutch (being wet) is smoother on engagement and (being APTC) smoother on decel. The throttle with the Eleactron cam is tight and quick. Add the lightweight flywheel and it's just a rocket through the revs. And it really engine brakes well. The ST if you roll off the throttle it just keeps rolling and you HAVE to stab the brakes to slow down.

Which for brakes, the monster is a BEAST. The ST stockers scare me sometimes, i even overshot a into town ess curve they have to slow traffice down (luckily the exit is straight). Not sure if it's the older rubber lines or the brake calipers. The Monster with the radial brakes and braided lines just GRAB the Braking rotors. The ST hold on for dear life it seems.

Lighter flywheel WTF ! I missed that part, now I'm gonna have to read/re-read this thread. If your ST rotors are in spec you might try some Galfer white/sintered pads in the ST those pads have made big improvement over stock pads in my experience.

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Lighter flywheel WTF ! I missed that part, now I'm gonna have to read/re-read this thread. If your ST rotors are in spec you might try some Galfer white/sintered pads in the ST those pads have made big improvement over stock pads in my experience.

Thanks for the tip. I actually have Ferodo sintered on the Monster so I may switch on the ST.
I'm sure the  brake lines have something to do with it too, but there I go thinking mods again..

yeah.. flywheel is just awesome.

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OMG. I just love this combo - DP ECU, PC V, Lightweight Flywheel, Electraeon Quick Throttle Cam - Just smooth smooth smooth through the entire rpm range. So responsive. No need for a 14t sprocket. You get to use the whole rev range the way you want it with no issues. 3rd gear pulls from 2000rpm, no problem. 6th gear cruising at 3000rpm, no problem. quick twists to push it past 6000k all the way to the limiter... soooo quick. blip the throttle for downshifts, so quick that you need less twist.

and I can't say enough about the 1198 forks with ohlin springs and goldvalves, just hug the road and combined with the Pilot Road 2CT... so much confidence. With the 1in wider Woodcraft bars this bike just falls into corners and holds whatever line I choose. need an adjustment midcorner, no problem. want to do a switchback, light push on the opposite bar and the bike just 'flips' to the other side like a flapjack on a spatula. soooo easy. If I could just afford a new rear shock to even it out, I would be in suspension heaven.

after having the ST for about a month now, I've re-fallen in love with the Monster.


 

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after having the ST for about a month now, I've re-fallen in love with the Monster.


 

Not surprised at all.... you did pretty much build it to you... One day ill reach that point as well. I mean, i do LOVE my monster but there are a few things to make it just right.... Btw, the headset is calling your name lol

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OMG. I just love this combo - DP ECU, PC V, Lightweight Flywheel, Electraeon Quick Throttle Cam - Just smooth smooth smooth through the entire rpm range. So responsive. No need for a 14t sprocket. You get to use the whole rev range the way you want it with no issues. 3rd gear pulls from 2000rpm, no problem. 6th gear cruising at 3000rpm, no problem. quick twists to push it past 6000k all the way to the limiter... soooo quick. blip the throttle for downshifts, so quick that you need less twist.

and I can't say enough about the 1198 forks with ohlin springs and goldvalves, just hug the road and combined with the Pilot Road 2CT... so much confidence. With the 1in wider Woodcraft bars this bike just falls into corners and holds whatever line I choose. need an adjustment midcorner, no problem. want to do a switchback, light push on the opposite bar and the bike just 'flips' to the other side like a flapjack on a spatula. soooo easy. If I could just afford a new rear shock to even it out, I would be in suspension heaven.

after having the ST for about a month now, I've re-fallen in love with the Monster.


 

About that rear shock, I was amazed at how well it works, until I did the SBK fork swap I thought the rear shock was shit, after fork swap and about 15mm of increased rear ride height and correct pre-load adj. I really can't see a reason to replace the rear shock. I'm sure the Ohilns would smooth out the ride and possibly better the handling but as you say it's so good now, I'll wait for your write up on rear shock replacement ! If anybody's done the SBK forks & rear shock replacement speak up.