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Monsterlover

#555
November 27, 2010, 06:41:35 AM
I took my 1911 to the range Thanksgiving day and had a lot of fun :)

I only went through about 100 rounds but managed a couple targets with 2" groups (at 7yds) and that's the best i've done with this gun, so I was happy.

Got some hammer bite too.  Not bad, but after probably 500-600 rounds through this gun this is the first time I've experienced it.

Anyway, I came to realize that gun does not fit well in my hand.  I have big hand and can easily put the first joint of my index finger past the trigger.

I thought to myself that maybe I needed to check out something with a double stack magazine.  This would also be an excuse to purchase another firearm :D

My wife and I stopped at the gun shop to fondle pistols yesterday.

Im wanting her to find something she's comfortable handling.

She ended up liking a S&W M&P compact 9mm the best -



Im really digging the Ruger SR9c compact 9mm.  Great fit in my hand and it comes with a longer mag that allows a lot more grip as well as a shorter mag that's geared for carry.





Does anyone have any experience with either of these?  Im guessing they're quality brands as they're both major players in the firearms market but I've never owned anything from either of them.

Thoughts?
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

ducatiz

#556
November 27, 2010, 06:57:45 AM
I've handled and fired the new M&P and like it.  They did their homework.

Haven't handled the Ruger but have heard good things.
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fastwin

#557
November 27, 2010, 07:36:24 AM
Zero mileage on either but I am sure they are both good. S&W and Ruger make some good quality stuff. All my Smith guns have worked great but they are all wheel guns and the only Rugers I have are .22s and my step son's Model 77 .223. My guess is you'd have to work hard to find someone who says they both make shitty guns. [bang]

Is your 1911 "stock"? As in no beavertail grip safety. I assume it is if you got bit. Stock 1911s, Hi-Powers and Walther ppk/ppks pistols are famous for the "bite". The 1911 is the easiest to cure with a beavertail grip safety. Saves the web of your hand and lets you grip higher for more control.
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Monsterlover

#558
November 27, 2010, 07:46:29 AM
Yeah it's stock.  I thought it strange after all those rounds that it starts biting me now [laugh]

I don't think my grip can get much higher.
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

kopfjäger

#559
November 27, 2010, 08:05:40 AM
Quote from: Monsterlover on November 27, 2010, 06:41:35 AM
I took my 1911 to the range Thanksgiving day


I bet the rust is gone.  :D
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Monsterlover

#560
November 27, 2010, 08:27:30 AM
It isn't.

It will be today when I clean it ;D
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

rgramjet

#561
November 27, 2010, 09:27:16 AM
Quote from: Monsterlover on November 27, 2010, 06:41:35 AM
I took my 1911 to the range Thanksgiving day and had a lot of fun :)

I only went through about 100 rounds but managed a couple targets with 2" groups (at 7yds) and that's the best i've done with this gun, so I was happy.

Got some hammer bite too.  Not bad, but after probably 500-600 rounds through this gun this is the first time I've experienced it.

Anyway, I came to realize that gun does not fit well in my hand.  I have big hand and can easily put the first joint of my index finger past the trigger.

I thought to myself that maybe I needed to check out something with a double stack magazine.  This would also be an excuse to purchase another firearm :D

My wife and I stopped at the gun shop to fondle pistols yesterday.

Im wanting her to find something she's comfortable handling.

She ended up liking a S&W M&P compact 9mm the best -



Im really digging the Ruger SR9c compact 9mm.  Great fit in my hand and it comes with a longer mag that allows a lot more grip as well as a shorter mag that's geared for carry.





Does anyone have any experience with either of these?  Im guessing they're quality brands as they're both major players in the firearms market but I've never owned anything from either of them.

Thoughts?

I fondled the Ruger before buying the Sig 250.  Felt similar in heft and quality to the Sig.  The thing that turned me off is the "Glock-like" trigger "safety".

See if you can get some range time on a DAO pistol.  They take a lot of getting used to after shooting the Sig 228 and Glock 17.  Probably would not have bought it had I tried it first.
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Monsterlover

#562
November 27, 2010, 10:54:18 AM
Can you elaborate?  You didn't buy the ruger and did buy the sig but had you tried the sig first you wouldn't have?

I just read up on DAO and im not sure the ruger fits that description.

Wikipedia says the trigger pull cocks and releases the firing pin each time.

The ruger is cocked when the slide is racked. You cab see the pin at the back of the slide.

Im not an expert though so im not certain on my description...
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

ducatiz

#563
November 27, 2010, 10:58:53 AM
The Ruger has a similar action to the Kahr.  Slide partial cocks the pin, trigger does the rest.
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Monsterlover

#564
November 27, 2010, 11:17:55 AM
The slide partially cocks the pin and the trigger finishes cocking the pin?  Or the slide does it all and the trigger just releases it?
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

ducatiz

#565
November 27, 2010, 11:30:44 AM
Trigger finishes a full cock and then releases
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Monsterlover

#566
November 27, 2010, 11:47:24 AM
Gotcha.

What's bad about that?
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

ducatiz

#567
November 27, 2010, 11:53:14 AM
Nothin'.  I have two Kahrs and love them
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Monsterlover

#568
November 27, 2010, 11:56:24 AM
[thumbsup]
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

rgramjet

#569
November 27, 2010, 12:01:23 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on November 27, 2010, 10:54:18 AM
Can you elaborate?  You didn't buy the ruger and did buy the sig but had you tried the sig first you wouldn't have?

I just read up on DAO and im not sure the ruger fits that description.

Wikipedia says the trigger pull cocks and releases the firing pin each time.

The ruger is cocked when the slide is racked. You cab see the pin at the back of the slide.

Im not an expert though so im not certain on my description...

It's been several months since I purchased the 250.  I checked out the Ruger briefly before plunging down the $$ on the Sig.  

I recall the trigger pull feeling hideous, assumed it was a dao but now realize its a striker system.  Did a little research afterward and found that the mag has to be in the pistol in order to feel the actual travel/pull.  

The Sig is at least consistent in its mile long travel.  Need to practice a lot more with it......or sell it and be happy with my 228.
Quote from: ducpainter on May 20, 2010, 02:11:47 PM
You're obviously a crack smokin' redneck carpenter. :-*

in 1st and 2nd it was like this; ringy-ting-ting-ting slow boring ho-hum .......oh!........OMG! What the fu.........HOLY SHIT !!--ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
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What has been smelled, cannot be unsmelled!
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