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'Belle's 748 Fix-up

Started by mostrobelle, August 24, 2010, 07:36:52 PM

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Speeddog

I bet it didn't break 100HP, unless the motor's over 800cc now...
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enzo

It's an 853 with a power commander.  Should we start a pool?
we're creepin' between the bullfrogs

mostrobelle

I forgot to ask what the HP read as, but it started out on their dyno at about 90 hp.  Scott said that he could get a few more out of it, but I'd guess it doesn't break 96. 
94,500 miles...05/22/15

MendoDave

The torque output tells a large part of the story. Those are the numbers I look at.

mostrobelle

Torque is in the low 50's.  Nothing to write home to mom about, but enough to have fun with.  I don't particularly give a rip what the engine can do, because it's still me riding it.  I could be on Rossi's bike and my laptimes would still suck.  As long as it's smooth, I'm happy. 
94,500 miles...05/22/15

tigre

Keep in mind the dyno at Desmoto (Double Dog's dyno, actually) is an inertial dyno, so the numbers will read ~10-15% lower than a "standard" dynojet style dynamometer.

Quote from: mostrobelle on December 17, 2010, 07:28:22 AM
Torque is in the low 50's.  Nothing to write home to mom about, but enough to have fun with.  I don't particularly give a rip what the engine can do, because it's still me riding it.  I could be on Rossi's bike and my laptimes would still suck.  As long as it's smooth, I'm happy. 
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mostrobelle

Desmoto told me that there's a huge +/- with any dyno numbers, but yes, theirs reads lower than a dynojet.  I'm really just looking at the curve and where the changes happen in relationship to the numbers.  The numbers themselves aren't that critical. 
94,500 miles...05/22/15

tigre

agreed... numbers are generally not comparable from one dyno to another.  I saw the discussion about the pool for whether it will crack 96hp and thought I'd call that out.
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mostrobelle

Good point.  My guess was premised on an earlier run on that same dyno. 
94,500 miles...05/22/15

tigre

ok.  yep.

I'm curious where my monster netted out on their dyno.  I was so overjoyed by how smooth it was that I forgot to ask!
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mostrobelle

I thought you were tossin' out numbers all over the place.  Now that I know that you don't have it on paper, I'm going to tell everyone that heap of junk ran at 35 hp. 
94,500 miles...05/22/15

tigre

If we're getting into numbers envy, please keep in mind I've got an 1198R* with kit cams + velocity stacks, ported heads, and several drums of MR-12 waiting to get mapped.

*true... it started as an "S", but when I replaced the complete heads (including cams/valves), rods, crank, and swapped the rear shock for a TTX, it became an "R"...
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'12 1198RS Tigre 7
'00 M944S Tigre 1
AFM #5 - Open Twins and more

mostrobelle

94,500 miles...05/22/15

DanTheMan

Quote from: tigre on December 17, 2010, 12:20:50 PM
If we're getting into numbers envy, please keep in mind I've got an 1198R* with kit cams + velocity stacks, ported heads, and several drums of MR-12 waiting to get mapped.

*true... it started as an "S", but when I replaced the complete heads (including cams/valves), rods, crank, and swapped the rear shock for a TTX, it became an "R"...

Thats cool n all but its still painted like a tiger.  [roll]
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tigre

Good point -- it's an 1198GRRR

Quote from: DanTheMan on December 17, 2010, 06:04:05 PM
Thats cool n all but its still painted like a tiger.  [roll]
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'00 M944S Tigre 1
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