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Siemens ECUs - the reflash/modding possibilities

Started by ungeheuer, August 25, 2010, 02:54:07 AM

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ChrisH

This is what I am hoping for. A this point I'd bet that a ref lashing of it will solve the problem. I suspect that something just didn't take quite right.

Quote from: Veloce-Fino on April 19, 2011, 10:49:10 AM
Just wanted to update everyone.

Anthony reflashed my ECU 2 weeks ago and sold me an MWR filter to go along with it.

He recommended a flash for me that removed 02 and raised the rpm limit while richening the a/f mix.

He did a PERFECT JOB with choosing the right tune. Bike is running like a dream. I pulled the plugs and they look really healthy. Not white anymore like before the tune.

I bought an ECU off ebay for a $50 a few weeks ago and he flashed that one.

I can't believe I ever waited to get this done, the bike is a completely different animal now.


Thanks Anthony!
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Quote from: DucNaked on April 19, 2011, 01:05:00 PM
And then post back with the answer, I would also like to know. ;D

In case anyone else was wondering, the answer I was given is that they are not compatible.

diurdac

I'm new in this forum. I'm very interested in M3C Siemens ECU.
¿Can anybody send me a file with a M3C mapp? My bike is a Duc 696. ¿Where is a explanation for the extructuration of mapp data?   

DoWorkSon

Quote from: diurdac on February 11, 2012, 02:57:49 PM
I'm new in this forum. I'm very interested in M3C Siemens ECU.
¿Can anybody send me a file with a M3C mapp? My bike is a Duc 696. ¿Where is a explanation for the extructuration of mapp data?   

You cannot just install the new data into your ECU.

You have to either
1. Mail your ECU to a business that can re-flash and install a new map

or..

2. Buy a hardware unit(Rexxer or Protune) that will reflash and install a new map for you...

Option 1 is cheaper. Option 2 allows you to reflash your ecu more than one time depending on what changes are made to your bike
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diurdac

Hey DoWorkSon.

I am not interested in Reflash me ECU (for the moment). I only want to analyze the data into file mapp. I know that DexXer User almost is necessary to reflash the ECU.

DarkMonster620

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Stormtrooper

Great thread! Thanks Ung and DN for pioneering the Rexxer trail for the rest of us [beer]

I am leaning towards the more economical Rexxer flash service (not the full user rexxer unit) the options in the states are either Proitalia/Desmoworks or Redline Motorsports from what I understand.  Any others?

Lastly > Are there any Rexxer agents in the states that that have the capability to create custom dyno tuned flashable tunes like there is in Germany?

ungeheuer

#127
Quote from: jmlenz on October 28, 2012, 01:36:03 AM
Great thread! Thanks Ung and DN for pioneering the Rexxer trail for the rest of us [beer]
[beer] 

Quote from: jmlenz on October 28, 2012, 01:36:03 AMAre there any Rexxer agents in the states that that have the capability to create custom dyno tuned flashable tunes like there is in Germany?
Redline in VA have the full RexXer Map-Editor facility.

And for those interested the rest of the Rexxer saga continues in its own thread here  >>  http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=43335.0

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Stormtrooper

Quote from: ungeheuer on October 28, 2012, 01:51:43 AM
Redline in VA have the full RexXer Map-Editor facility.

I see. Without being able to physically get my bike to VA (I'm in CA) I guess that doesn't help me getting a custom dyno tuned flash.  I've emailed Dave at Redline, sounds like they are doing great things there with Siemens + Rexxer. 

scooterd145

#129
First, thanks for all the INFO!

I just purchased and received a Rexxer unit from Dave at Redline. now to go find my stock ECU and see how it goes.

For review I have an 09 M1100s > HMF Slipons > Removed flapper (and solenoid) from stock midpipe (welded up the hole/slot)  > DP Cams > MWR airbox Mod > PC5 > Autotune (dual) > DP air filter > DP "Full" ECU (soon to be replaced by my stock ECU and Rexxer Map)

Scott

ungeheuer

Quote from: scooterd145 on November 07, 2012, 10:09:45 AM

I just purchased and received a Rexxer unit from Dave at Redline. now to go find my stock ECU and see how it goes.

Cool  [thumbsup]

Be good if you add to the knowledge in the dedicated Rexxer thread here  >>  http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=43335.90


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Roaduser

#131
Another option might be www.tuneboy.com.au

i recall him talking about the siemens ecu's, he also spoke of the panigale but i cant recall if he was still working them out or was actively tuning them. its not listed on his site but im sure his hardware will work with the 1100 if it has the same ecu as the streetfighter, multi or diavel. if its not the same ecu there is a chance as his website doesnt have a complete list of tunes.

he has done the job on my m800 magnetti. A Really good hardworking guy that can be a bit hard to get hold of, email is your best bet.

basically with his gear u will get all the hardware (except wideband sensor) needed to download, log, modify, and flash your ecu as much as you like. he has a lot of tunes already done and many on his website but as said above, dont just look at his website list, he is likely to have more than what is listed. you will need to hook up his gear, get a serial code off your ecu and email it to them, then Emma will send back a software licence to allow your hardware to tune that specific ecu. it will be locked to that one ecu.


im not affiliated at all, but i am a happy customer. and sorry if this has been mentioned before, didnt feel like reading 9 pages of info that dont relate to me  ;D

ungeheuer

Quote from: Roaduser on November 08, 2012, 01:41:08 AM
Another option might be www.tuneboy.com.au
Or it might not be.

Quote from: Roaduser on November 08, 2012, 01:41:08 AMi recall him talking about the siemens ecu's
... but his website lists zero Siemens ECU'd Ducatis  :-\.

Quote from: Roaduser on November 08, 2012, 01:41:08 AMim sure his hardware will work with the 1100 if it has the same ecu as the streetfighter, multi or diavel.
I believe the current Multi and Diavel run Mitsubishi ECUs.  Streetfighter runs Marelli.  None of the models listed run Siemens AFAIK.

Quote from: Roaduser on November 08, 2012, 01:41:08 AMhe has done the job on my m800 magnetti. A Really good hardworking guy
I dont doubt he's a good bloke who does a great job [thumbsup].   But doesnt look like he does anything with Siemens ECUs  :-\.

Quote from: Roaduser on November 08, 2012, 01:41:08 AMdidnt feel like reading 9 pages of info that dont relate to me  ;D
No worries.  Your post dont relate to this thread.  So its even  ;D ;)

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Roaduser

yeah.... you can be like that if you want, read and quote the lines that paint a pretty little picture for you, or you could read the lines you didnt quote and get the full story.

Quote from: Roaduser on November 08, 2012, 01:41:08 AM
Another option might be www.tuneboy.com.au

i recall him talking about the siemens ecu's, he also spoke of the panigale but i cant recall if he was still working them out or was actively tuning them. its not listed on his site but im sure his hardware will work with the 1100 if it has the same ecu as the streetfighter, multi or diavel. if its not the same ecu there is a chance as his website doesnt have a complete list of tunes.

he has done the job on my m800 magnetti. A Really good hardworking guy that can be a bit hard to get hold of, email is your best bet.

basically with his gear u will get all the hardware (except wideband sensor) needed to download, log, modify, and flash your ecu as much as you like. he has a lot of tunes already done and many on his website but as said above, dont just look at his website list, he is likely to have more than what is listed. you will need to hook up his gear, get a serial code off your ecu and email it to them, then Emma will send back a software licence to allow your hardware to tune that specific ecu. it will be locked to that one ecu.


im not affiliated at all, but i am a happy customer. and sorry if this has been mentioned before, didnt feel like reading 9 pages of info that dont relate to me ;D

the red being the important parts you left out of your story... i did send him a sms for you and for your information, the siemens ecu is still in the works. so consider this post a heads up then. when he finishes it will be another alternative to tune your bikes with and a great one at that.  :-*

ungeheuer

Quote from: Roaduser on November 08, 2012, 08:43:54 PM
yeah.... you can be like that if you want, read and quote the lines that paint a pretty little picture for you, or you could read the lines you didnt quote and get the full story.

the red being the important parts you left out of your story... i did send him a sms for you and for your information, the siemens ecu is still in the works. so consider this post a heads up then. when he finishes it will be another alternative to tune your bikes with and a great one at that.  :-*
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I dont have a story to tell.  No line to push.  No "pretty little picture".  Nothing to sell.  I just like dealing in facts.

Posting up about ifs and maybes only adds to confusion.  I felt the need to clarify.

In a thread (which as you said, you didnt bother to read) about tuning Siemens ECUs its nice if the facts relate to that.

If down the track tuneboy does actually have some options for the Siemens crowd please come back and tell us all about it  :).

More options is good [thumbsup] [thumbsup].



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