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MV Agusta F3: Italy’s 675 - First official pics

Started by Travman, October 31, 2010, 06:25:53 PM

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jerryz

Its agreat looking bike and from what i hear it works really well.....BUT !.....it has a major problem The Triumph 675 is so good and the MV has to compete on price or it will not get a look in as the triumph is so similar and cheap.

mattc7

Quote from: matt922 on November 02, 2010, 04:25:42 PM
I read in another article that Harley wanted MV to be a 10k bike/year company.  Now that the family has it back, they said that would dilute the name "like other companies are currently doing".  They said currently they sell about 400 bikes a year.  They would like to see 1,000 bikes a year with the addition of the F3.   

If they can iron out parts/support issues, there's no reason why this wouldn't be able to sell a 1000 units itself in a year, especially at the 10k price point. 

People will be hard pressed to buy, if they can't find a dealer, and/or a mechanic who knows the mv engines and their idiosyncrasies

Turf

Quote from: jerryz on November 02, 2010, 04:59:27 PM
Its agreat looking bike and from what i hear it works really well.....BUT !.....it has a major problem The Triumph 675 is so good and the MV has to compete on price or it will not get a look in as the triumph is so similar and cheap.

the triumph has a flaw in that it's not an MV though
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ducatiz

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Turf

Quote from: ducatiz on November 02, 2010, 08:34:34 PM
and its made in Thailand...



As are Nikon and Sony Digital SLR's

Hondas, toyotas, Volvos

pretty much everything seagate makes

parts for triumph

...point being?

It's not like thailand only bouncyballs, wax lips and ipad knockoffs

it was designed in italy, which is the important part
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.

ducatiz

Quote from: Paper5tr3et7 on November 02, 2010, 09:04:20 PM
As are Nikon and Sony Digital SLR's

Hondas, toyotas, Volvos

pretty much everything seagate makes

parts for triumph

...point being?

It's not like thailand only bouncyballs, wax lips and ipad knockoffs

it was designed in italy, which is the important part


my volvo was made at gothenberg

triumph keeps the UK bikes at Hinckley, but worldwide bikes come out of Thailand.

doesn't have the same feel for me.

Last Nikon I bought was an F2SB.  All the pro stuff is still made in Japan.

When a company has high end stuff, they make it at home.  like porsche or ducati.
Check out my oil filter forensics thread!                     Offended? Click here
"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

mattc7

Quote from: ducatiz on November 02, 2010, 09:15:56 PM
my volvo was made at gothenberg

triumph keeps the UK bikes at Hinckley, but worldwide bikes come out of Thailand.

doesn't have the same feel for me.

Last Nikon I bought was an F2SB.  All the pro stuff is still made in Japan.

When a company has high end stuff, they make it at home.  like porsche or ducati.

Triumph keeps the Triples in house.  Daytona, Street, Speed all in the UK

the rest is Thai.  I love how all the bonnie/thruxton people are all up on their bikes being british....and they're more thai

matt922

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Quote from: Paper5tr3et7 on November 02, 2010, 09:04:20 PM
Volvos

Currently the only ones made there are for their own consumption.  Current models for NA/EU are made in sweden and belgium.

back on topic..
even though the triumph is designed in england, it still looks kinda like a japanese bike(IMO).  Italians always do the more risque designs.  Not to mention that italian soul for the price of a soulless jap bike

ducatiz

Quote from: mattc7 on November 02, 2010, 09:26:28 PM
Triumph keeps the Triples in house.  Daytona, Street, Speed all in the UK

the rest is Thai.  I love how all the bonnie/thruxton people are all up on their bikes being british....and they're more thai

engines, yes.  second thai factory is assembling triples with pre-built engines and frames.  triumph gets to keep the "built in england" designation in the VIN because the rules only required a finished engine put into a frame.

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"Yelling out of cars, turning your speakers out the window to blast your music onto the street, setting off M-80 firecrackers, firing automatic weapons into the airâ€"these are all well and good. But none of them create a merry atmosphere of insouciance and bonhomie quite like a revving motorcycle.

Travman

#69
I like this view a lot.  I like what I can see of the swingarm.


I like the swingarm especially the cut-outs.

Travman

The F3 will have a counter-rotating crankshaft, a feature never offered in a production supersport prior to this time according to MV.  What exactly is a counter-rotating crank and why is this a good thing for handling?
http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2010/11/mv-agusta-unveils-new-f3-675cc-triple/

The Don

What exactly is a counter-rotating crank and why is this a good thing for handling?
The crank spins from front to back, (like on the M1 Yamaha) I read something about the reason it was meant to be better for handling but cant quite remember. Something along the lines that because the crank is spinning backwards and opposite to to the wheels it helps with braking, balance and handling, Ill try and find the artical.
Don
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The Don

I've got to say it looks Japanese to me, take the stickers off and paint it one colour I wouldn't know what brand it was.
Don
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The Don

"This years bike also spins the crank in the opposite direction to some previous versions. This seems to have been done to reduce inertia and allow the bike to be turned into corners more rapidly."

http://www.maclean-nj.com/2002motogpengines.htm
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kopfjäger

Quote from: The Don on November 03, 2010, 07:34:49 PM
I've got to say it looks Japanese to me, take the stickers off and paint it one colour I wouldn't know what brand it was.
Don

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