New Diavel Looks awesome.... But ehhh...The looks???

[hillbillypolack]

Said it before and I'll say it again.

If I wanted a V Max, I'd get a V Max. This bike makes zero sense to Ducatis lineup, heritage or sporting history. It makes about as much sense as the Ducati Indiana or Apollo.

And it makes the V-Rod look svelte. There's an article in this month's BIKE with the designer trying to justify it's intent.

[zooom]

There's an article in this month's BIKE with the designer trying to justify it's intent.

was the intent to polarize current Ducati owners as well as try and attract V-Max and V-Rod owners to the marque?

[ducatiz]

Said it before and I'll say it again.

If I wanted a V Max, I'd get a V Max. This bike makes zero sense to Ducatis lineup, heritage or sporting history. It makes about as much sense as the Ducati Indiana or Apollo.

And it makes the V-Rod look svelte. There's an article in this month's BIKE with the designer trying to justify it's intent.

As far as "you" as a buyer, Ducati already has you.  They aren't trying to attract you with this bike.  They are going for a different type of rider.

If there are 5-7000 people per year, worldwide, that will buy this bike instead of a VMax or similar, then the bike is a success. 

The ST never sold more than 5000 per year and it was considered a success.  Sales dropped off and they discontinued it.  Same with the SC.  All of this is in line with their plans to have a few lines that are standards (i.e. SBK, Monster/HMT) and a few lines that come and go (i.e. SC, SS, and ST)

[Raux]

was the intent to polarize current Ducati owners as well as try and attract V-Max and V-Rod owners to the marque?

link?

[Privateer]

how DARE they build a bike that won't appeal to everyone!

[hillbillypolack]

As far as "you" as a buyer, Ducati already has you.  They aren't trying to attract you with this bike.  They are going for a different type of rider.

If there are 5-7000 people per year, worldwide, that will buy this bike instead of a VMax or similar, then the bike is a success. 

The ST never sold more than 5000 per year and it was considered a success.  Sales dropped off and they discontinued it.  Same with the SC.  All of this is in line with their plans to have a few lines that are standards (i.e. SBK, Monster/HMT) and a few lines that come and go (i.e. SC, SS, and ST)

5-7k WORLDWIDE?  How does that even rate as a justifiable business case?

In other news, the Desmosedici sold how many and did WHAT for Ducatis reputation?

[kopfjäger]

5-7k WORLDWIDE?  How does that even rate as a justifiable business case?

In other news, the Desmosedici sold how many and did WHAT for Ducatis reputation?

www.ducatinewstoday.com/.../ducati-cuts-production-as-us-sales-decline-by-half/

[ducatiz]

5-7k WORLDWIDE?  How does that even rate as a justifiable business case?

In other news, the Desmosedici sold how many and did WHAT for Ducatis reputation?

How many bikes do you think Ducati sells?

5 to 7000 bikes sold would be a huge number for them.



in case you can't read those, that's 2005 total world production

ST: 744
SS:835
SC: 4055
MTS: 5750
SBK: 6319
Monster: 15878

[Privateer]

in order to grow the brand they need conquest sales.  conquest sales mean offering bikes that compete with other mfgs lines on price point and market segment.

[ducatiz]

in order to grow the brand they need conquest sales.  conquest sales mean offering bikes that compete with other mfgs lines on price point and market segment.

[hadesducati848]

perhaps so, but id hate to see a ducati in every driveway. one of the main things i like about my ducati is that its considered exotic and high end. its not the most affordable bike so its mostly passed up as a first choice bike for many noobs who just got their licence.

[Speeddog]

I heard that the Diavel is going to be manufactured in the new Thailand Factory.

[kopfjäger]

I heard that the Diavel is going to be manufactured in the new Thailand Factory.

[stopintime]

I heard that the Diavel is going to be manufactured in the new Thailand Factory.

If they mean Diavel business in the US market, why not set up a small "factory" in the US....
That should make an impact in the cruiser market "made in US" (PR, jobs, ...)

[Raux]

has anyone seen a diagram of the rear suspension on this thing?

I've been trying to figure it out from pics.