anybody have a Shorai Battery yet?

[Blue]

I will admit, I am interested in the battery, but not really excited to buy another charger.  Anyone use these batteries and not on a tender?

[Dellikose]

You're doing yourself a disservice in not having a tender. They are great for batteries that aren't used frequently or go the winter without use. They are cheap too, here's what I have:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000CITK8S/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_BSkptb1BKDHX8

[Blue]

You're doing yourself a disservice in not having a tender. They are great for batteries that aren't used frequently or go the winter without use. They are cheap too, here's what I have:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000CITK8S/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_BSkptb1BKDHX8

I do have a battery tender currently for my lead-acid battery.  It is the same one as you posted above.  I see that Shorai sells their own tender and that was what I was not excited about buying.  I have read that Shorai says you can use a tender as long as it does not have an automatic desulfation mode.  I was curious if people were using the Battery Tenders (or equivalent) for topping off or maintaining their Shorai battery.  

A quick search this evening came up with these three reviews, two mention the tenders:
Rider Magazine
WebBikeWorld
Cycleworld

[oldndumb]

I bought an 1100 EVO back on November, 2012 and shortly thereafter I swapped out the original battery for a Shorai that I had been running in a 1000SV for about a year. It still cranks fine and I have never used any type charger on it. If I wanted to use a charger on it I would be certain to follow Shorai's directions and cautions.

Almost forgot, I also swapped out the original charge circuit cabling with 4 gauge welding cable. This is not insignificant as it greatly improves the charge circuit efficiency.

[Metzis]

Hey guys a while after searching on the net i find this JMT  battery brand in the German ebay. What you think? The cost of it shipping cost included is around 100â,¬. Has anyone hear anything about this brand good or bad?

The specs are these...

Lithium -ion batteries of JMT, High-tech for your motorcycle .

The latest generation of batteries identified by the red cover.

Indicator ( I)
All batteries are equipped with a battery condition - equipped Indicator .
Simply press the test button. When all three blue LEDs on the battery fully (ful ) is loaded. Lights only 2 LEDs, it is loaded only half ( med) . No later than when only one LED (low), the battery must be charged .

With the replacement of a standard lead-acid battery with a JMT lithium -ion battery up to 5 kg in weight can be saved without significant effort.

The following benefits speak for JMT lithium -ion batteries :
- About 1/3 of the weight of comparable lead acid battery
- Unbeatable ratio of cost / weight savings
- As contained in any position mountable no acid
- Does not contain heavy metals
- Balanced discharge / charge of all cells by Balancer
- Fast charging with high charge current (up to 90% in 6 min)
- Very low self-discharge (up to 5 % per month )
- Even at high temperatures still good performance 60-80 ° C
- Safe technology and high durability

Lead -acid batteries can be used only 30% of their capacity due to the specific properties ,
while nearly 100 % of the capacity can be used in lithium - ion batteries.

For this reason, need lithium versions of JMT batteries for the same start power , only 1/3 of the capacity of a comparable lead-acid battery.
A uniform charge state of all cells is also ensured by a built-in processor ( the "balancer ").
The dimensions of the lithium -ion batteries using adapters correspond to the dimensions of the original lead-acid batteries.
The connections are identical, thus the battery can be replaced without further adjustments in a few minutes.

Please note that only suitable for charging chargers are used, such as the JMP 800 , JMP 4000 or the corresponding workshop equipment .
For fast charging , we recommend the JMP 30000 per workshop unit . Thus, a lithium-ion battery to be charged again within 6 minutes to 90%.
The maximum recommended charge currents please refer to the technical data below .

In no case chargers may be used , trying to desulfate deeply discharged batteries at 10 volts with a voltage of more than 14.9 volts before they begin the actual charge .
The maximum charging voltage of 14.9 volts must be exceeded in any case . Danger of explosion .

Although the Lightweight battery is extremely suitable for everyday use , it should be noted that the starting capacity is given only limited at temperatures below zero degrees Celsius. However, this will rarely happen in motorcycles .

technology
JMT use lithium-ion batteries as a cathode material of iron phosphate ( LiFePO4 ) and lithium - polymer using the method of manufacture.
This allows them to rise even explode , either in flames in normal operation.
The technology and the manufacturing process ensure the highest safety standard for lithium batteries.

- 12 V maintenance -free lithium -ion battery
- Energy 36.0 Wh
- Dimensions in mm 150x65x92
- Recommended charging current 1.5 amps
- Maximum charging current for fast charging 15 amps
- Weight 0.7 kg
- CCA 190

Comparable in moderation and connections with :
Yuasa Mfr No.
YT12B -BS
YT12B -4
YT14B -BS
YT14B -4
YB16AL -A2

Sorry for the "poor" translation but my German are not that good so i used Google translate, which doesn't speak good German either

[Dellikose]

I do have a battery tender currently for my lead-acid battery.  It is the same one as you posted above.  I see that Shorai sells their own tender and that was what I was not excited about buying.  I have read that Shorai says you can use a tender as long as it does not have an automatic desulfation mode.  I was curious if people were using the Battery Tenders (or equivalent) for topping off or maintaining their Shorai battery.  

A quick search this evening came up with these three reviews, two mention the tenders:
Rider Magazine
WebBikeWorld
Cycleworld

Yes, sorry. I use the Battery Tender on my Shorai going on 3 years now and not had any problems.

[memper]

The customer service at Alien Motion told me I needn't charge or remove my LifePo battery for the winter. My bike sat out doors (covered) all winter. Cleaned the carbs today and it fired right up. Gonna check the multi meter tomorrow.
I was told that lead acid type chargers might damage the cells. Could be just a means of selling their own chargers, I don't know...
Point is I've never charged it aside from running the bike.

[Blue]

My new Shorai battery should be shipping out to me today...
Thanks for the responses to my questions.   

[Howley]

I know it's too late since you bought it already, but I got an earthx battery. It has a built-in balancer so I can use a standard charger, not that I've ever had to charge it. Starts strong as ever, even after months out of action.

[StephenC]

I'm thinking of upgrading my battery, but have a few questions.  I would be replacing the stock battery on an 1100S and am more worried about my bike always starting than weight or size, so it sounds like I need the LFX18A1-BS12.  I ride a few times a week almost every week (but occasionally go away for a month, it would never be left longer than this) so it sounds like I wouldn't need a tender.  I don't have any 'extras' that draw power when the bike is off, just the immobiliser etc.  Will I have any issues with the current cable reaching the terminals and do the batteries come with the appropriate filler to fit the space left by the old battery?  Are folks still happy with their Shorai?

[koko64]

The batteries are so small that cable reach is easy.
The Shorai batteries come with foam packing.

[StephenC]

Thanks.  I read a post earlier in this thread (I think it was talking about a different brand of Lithium battery) saying the cables were too short, so wanted to clarify.  Are you happy with yours?

[koko64]

Very happy. I have one in each of my two bikes.
They have a good warranty which is worth it for the premium price imo.
As far as cable reach is concerned my bike is an old M900, so check with the vendor for your model to get the correct terminal orientation. Because the batteries are so small you use the packing to locate the battery correctly to get the cable reach.
I would buy from a sponsor as they help keep this place afloat. The goodwill from the sponsors towards our members adds gusto to any warranty.

[StephenC]

I would buy from a sponsor as they help keep this place afloat. The goodwill from the sponsors towards our members adds gusto to any warranty.

I would but I don't think a battery is a good thing to be shipping internationally. I'll probably buy directly from Shorai Australia.

[koko64]

I forgot you were an Aussie .