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Neutral when at a stop on Monster 796

Started by miahendersons, January 19, 2011, 09:41:18 AM

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miahendersons

Maybe a rookie question, but I just got a Monster 796 and find it to be rather difficult to get the bike into Neutral when at a stop light(Fully Stopped).  It gets into Neutral rather easily when slowing down to stop or also once the engine is turned off.
Anything I am missing here or is this normal?
Thanks

Speeddog

It'll likely get easier as you get more miles on the bike.

It'll be easier when the bike is warmer too.
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minnesotamonster

You're bike is trying to tell you something.

Leave it in gear and watch your mirrors while sitting at stop lights. Too many stories/videos of cagers plowing into stopped bikes at lights and stop signs.
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Slide Panda

It's still probably settling in like Speed days. If after you've got some miles on it you are still having issues then worry.

If it was a bike with some wear, it's a classic sign that the clutch line needs to be bled. And you could do this now... but it's probably a waste of effort.
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the_Journeyman

I would say since it's new, it'll drop into N much easier if you go for neutral just before the bike stops rolling ~

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strat10

My S4RS was difficult, and it turned out it needed a Gear shift lever adjustment.

chixstrip

Despite my bike being worn in enough to shift easily into neutral at a stop, its already become a habit for me to flick into neutral just before reaching a complete stop.  [bang]

696DCRider

I have this same issue on my 696.  I'm at almost 4000 miles though, and it hasn't significantly improved.  I actually have trouble getting it into neutral sometimes when I go to start it.  I have to pick it up off the kickstand and roll it just a bit to get neutral to engage.  Does this sound familiar to anyone?  I also have the issue when at stop.  That might have gotten a bit better, but not much over 4k miles.

Veloce-Fino

Quote from: 696DCRider on January 19, 2011, 09:15:54 PM
I have this same issue on my 696.  I'm at almost 4000 miles though, and it hasn't significantly improved.  I actually have trouble getting it into neutral sometimes when I go to start it.  I have to pick it up off the kickstand and roll it just a bit to get neutral to engage.  Does this sound familiar to anyone?  I also have the issue when at stop.  That might have gotten a bit better, but not much over 4k miles.

Lets just hope neither of you have the problems I had with my 696.

When switching gears my gearbox was noisy, shifting was not smooth as it should have been. Finding neutral was never really difficult, but switching gears was rough.

A week later I drop into first and the shifter goes to the floor and stays there. Can't move it or take it out of first. Dealer fixed it under warranty thankfully. Something was mis-adjusted or bent or whatever. It was just a major headache.
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Quote from: minnesotamonster on January 19, 2011, 10:06:29 AM
You're bike is trying to tell you something.

Leave it in gear and watch your mirrors while sitting at stop lights. Too many stories/videos of cagers plowing into stopped bikes at lights and stop signs.

+1 [thumbsup]. I keep mine in 1st gear at stops. Ready to go incase granny with glaucoma failed to see me.
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erkishhorde

Quote from: 696DCRider on January 19, 2011, 09:15:54 PM
I have this same issue on my 696.  I'm at almost 4000 miles though, and it hasn't significantly improved.  I actually have trouble getting it into neutral sometimes when I go to start it.  I have to pick it up off the kickstand and roll it just a bit to get neutral to engage.  Does this sound familiar to anyone?  I also have the issue when at stop.  That might have gotten a bit better, but not much over 4k miles.

After 4k miles I'd check the lever adjustment. You might need to tweak the adjuster screw.
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696DCRider

Yeah, that's a good idea.  I put adjustable levers on my bike.  I never really messed with the screw though, so maybe I will try that and see if it affects it at all.

Does the placement of the shifter on the rod make a difference with this at all?  I never really followed any particular steps when replacing my shifter after snapping it off.  Like, for instance, should you put the bike in any particular gear, and then affix the shifter onto the rod and tighten it?  Just wondering.
Quote from: erkishhorde on January 20, 2011, 12:17:47 AM
After 4k miles I'd check the lever adjustment. You might need to tweak the adjuster screw.

yamifixer

Mine is 10 years old and does the same thing. I just leave it in first and listen to the clutch rattle when stopped.

I'm more worried about the extra neutral Ducati installed between 4th and 5th.
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Howie

Quote from: 696DCRider on January 20, 2011, 06:59:30 AM
Yeah, that's a good idea.  I put adjustable levers on my bike.  I never really messed with the screw though, so maybe I will try that and see if it affects it at all.

Does the placement of the shifter on the rod make a difference with this at all?  I never really followed any particular steps when replacing my shifter after snapping it off.  Like, for instance, should you put the bike in any particular gear, and then affix the shifter onto the rod and tighten it?  Just wondering.

The screw is a free play adjustment, not a travel adjustment.  Too little free play and the clutch will slip and eventually burn out.  You need 1.5-2mm. free play.