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M1100 Project Bike

Started by arrick, March 08, 2011, 12:17:13 AM

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junior varsity

You are going to need more engine work to pull of the "R" in that paint scheme, or risk the end result of an 'SP' type of build being mislabeled as an 'R' type of build (using current SBK letter designations as guide posts)

arrick

Quote from: j v on April 22, 2011, 05:11:18 PM
You are going to need more engine work to pull of the "R" in that paint scheme, or risk the end result of an 'SP' type of build being mislabeled as an 'R' type of build (using current SBK letter designations as guide posts)

A good excuse for a “Phase 2” build...

junior varsity


DucatiTorrey

im pretty sure compared to any other current model monster sold at a dealer or here, his is an R

nice paint sir!
  - real place

junior varsity

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Quote from: DucatiTorrey on April 22, 2011, 10:37:06 PM
im pretty sure compared to any other current model monster sold at a dealer or here, his is an R

nice paint sir!

Current letter designations are following this trend:

S - upgraded forks and shock to Ohlins (or equivalent) mid-level components, add a piece or two of carbon. Depending on model line, the non-adj. damper is swapped with an adjustable unit (Superbikes - the SF retains the normal non-adj damper on the S model, and the Monster continues to go through life with no damper on any showroom floor model), likewise some models get lighter forged aluminum wheels.

SP - standard motor internals, but with lots of upgraded accessories like aluminum tank, fancier paint scheme, high end suspension, traction control, quick shifter, clutch setup, a few bits of carbon, the forged aluminum Marchesini wheels, etc.  the upgrades are all *external* to the motor

R - titanium valves, titanium con-rods, different pistons, different cams, different crank, etc plus a lot of the other features (like high end suspension, Corse traction control,  paint scheme, everything is carbon, aluminum tank, still the forged alu Marchesini wheels, etc - some "street" features like passenger pegs are gone for good), huge difference in power - the major changes are the big internal differences.

Its much closer to an SP with external changes like swingarm, some carbon, clutch & clutch cover, brakes, etc, and with some creature-comfort/aesthetic personal touches like the bars, etc.   Wouldn't be an "R" using Ducati's nomenclature (or an SPO or SPS for that matter), without at least a minimal change to cams, hi-comp pistons, and something as small as a lightweight flywheel - its a far shade from an R.   An "R" build in true Ducati fashion would have the cams and pistons PLUS upgraded con rods and lighter crank, and the valves would be lighter if not also up a size as well.

Its one of those things some non-authorized dealerships will try to pull by putting a few DP parts on a bike (like a slave cylinder, mirrors, clutch cover/pressure plate, and monster-Art body kit), and then calling it a special edition of one type or another.   That ain't "special", its simply 'rounded-out' - in the car world, that would be "dealer installed accessories" rather than a modified model (if you were to compare to something like a Yenko or a Lingenfelter, etc etc etc)

not bagging on his ride at all, it would be a beyond a hoot to ride and I'm excited to see the final product or final of 'phase 1' (and its net weight sans gas to see how it fares against the published dry weight #'s), but I am certainly going to egg him on to drop the motor and build it up some more:  Arrick could grab an OEM evo lighter weight charging system, lightened/balanced crank, +2mm bore & high compression, port/polish heads, thermal/ceramic coat exhaust port in head, Ti valves, DP/Nichols/Fox-machined lightweight flywheel, lightweight Z=20 roller kit (all 4 pulleys - 2 for cams, 2 for layshaft),  lighten the primary gears, etc.   That'd be very much an "R" model by any measure.

Raux

gotta agree with J V on this one as well.

Motor building is what sets the R from the rest of the pack

DucatiTorrey

well, then he screwed up the paint twice....


just kidding, go with it man, its a sick bike, sick paint
  - real place

arrick


The Bearded Duc

2001 M750 - Sold
2006 S2R 800 - She's just darling

Amlethae

This is one of those suggestions I'm prone to in my life: do it, and then we'll decide if it's good enough to keep::

Gold rim stripes.
First bike (ever): 2008 Monster 696 [now it's the wife's]
Lost to the front end of a GMC truck: 2010 Monster 1100s w/ABS [miss it!]
Currently Riding: 2013 Streetfighter 848

ChrisH

I'd love to see you have that seat redone with gold stitching to match the bike. That red stands out. Everything else is beyond words IMHO. Secksy bike!
2010 Monster 696
2005 Honda Ruckus
1985 Honda Spree
-Austin Texas-

junior varsity

Or recover the seat in a purposefully chosen leather hide.  I've seen it on an S4RS and I thought it was awesome (he did it right... I suppose it would be very easy to go wrong)

arrick

I was thinking the same thing about the stitching. Anyone know anyone who could re-stitch it?

danaid

 Awesome! cant wait to see the finished product. You need to enter your bike in the monster challenge, you are setting the bar high just with your eye for the colors you are using.
11' 1198SP  Black
09' 1100S    Red
09'     696.   Red   first Ducati (sold)

Raux

fortunately, he can't enter... works for DNA