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Started by buck243, March 31, 2011, 05:50:25 PM

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GK

#16
August 07, 2012, 01:57:24 AM
Quote from: zooom on April 01, 2011, 01:08:42 PM


In Australia, we call these Sabre saws!

The proper name I believe is a reciprocating saw.

In any case, they are a handy bit of kit.

GK
2001 Ducati  Monster 900S ie
JE high comp pistons, bit of porting, open airbox with DP filter, PC3 with custom map, CCW matched injectors, Termignoni cf slip ons, 14:39 gearing.

Gone but not forgotten!
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Anchorism

#17
August 07, 2012, 05:59:48 AM
here are a couple pics of the filter





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BMiller

#18
August 07, 2012, 07:19:17 AM
On pre-696 model Monsters, your header would have saved you [thumbsup]
2003 Ducati 748S

MadDuck

#19
August 07, 2012, 07:49:47 AM
Quote from: Speedbag on April 01, 2011, 04:26:07 AM
Well, they are better than pounding a screwdriver through the filter housing.

Not unless you can't get a grip on the filter. But that might not apply to a Monster. I had to resort to the screwdriver method on a 1098 that I was working on. The factory oil filter tool would just spin on the outside of the filter housing. The drain plug was barely tight.   [roll]  Once I got the filter turning it came off easily and no damage to the threads. That was a relief.   Coming in after some of the amateur DIY guys always cracks me up.
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Anchorism

#20
August 07, 2012, 09:06:45 AM
Quote from: BMiller on August 07, 2012, 07:19:17 AM
On pre-696 model Monsters, your header would have saved you [thumbsup]
I'm kinda glad it wasn't that way... Luckily I didn't cause any other damage than just the filter
"Life's tough.  Its even tougher if your stupid!"

-2011 Ducati Monster 796
       Custom Woodcraft tank cover, Danmoto Conicals, Tall boy clip ons, Rizoma grips and mirrors, Oberon bar end signals, Comp werkz tail tuck, Integrated turn signal LED tail light, Rollei HD camera mount, 2 12 volt outlets, Can Headlight, custom lowered guage, heat wrapped exhaust, S4R Wheels, 10500 miles.
-2009 Ducati Monster 696 Custom Mirrors, Renthal Bars, 6100 Miles
-1985 Moto Guzzi V65TT
   Knobby tires

BMiller

#21
August 07, 2012, 09:13:42 AM
Quote from: Anchorism on August 07, 2012, 09:06:45 AM
I'm kinda glad it wasn't that way... Luckily I didn't cause any other damage than just the filter


I had an old Superhawk that I took off a sidewalk and thought I'd clear it....it scuffed up the bottom of the header, but that was it.  I'd rather have a scratched header or busted oil filter then broken engine case.  Just sayin [thumbsup]
2003 Ducati 748S

theprocess

#22
August 08, 2012, 09:32:42 AM
Quote from: Anchorism on August 07, 2012, 01:16:39 AM
So as idiodic as it sounds i managed to do just that yesterday....
I feel so embarassed.  I was going from one parking lot to the next and didnt realize the curb i was going off of was NEARLY that tall.  Needless to say i messed up the filter pretty bad.  Luckily i had a friend that could tow me home.  She bled all the oil in about 30 seconds.  I think i was stuck in the "Supermoto hooligan" mindset yesterday so i kinda deserved it.  Havent pulled the filter yet.  I plan on doing that on lunch today.  I feel like such a moron!  At least it was about time for an oil change, i just wish she told me in a more sublte manner.  UGH!

Yikes! Curb definitely did a number on your oil filter. The early 696 had more of the engine casing wrapping around the filter than the current 696-796-1100 which adds some protection against debris but a curb wouldve probably done more damage to the casing in your case.

the_Journeyman

#23
August 11, 2012, 06:14:06 AM
First I've heard of it two.  I have logged a TON o miles on gravel roads too.

JM
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#24
August 11, 2012, 10:50:05 AM
Quote from: Anchorism on August 07, 2012, 01:16:39 AM
So as idiodic as it sounds i managed to do just that yesterday....
I feel so embarassed.  I was going from one parking lot to the next and didnt realize the curb i was going off of was NEARLY that tall.  Needless to say i messed up the filter pretty bad.  Luckily i had a friend that could tow me home.  She bled all the oil in about 30 seconds.  I think i was stuck in the "Supermoto hooligan" mindset yesterday so i kinda deserved it.  Havent pulled the filter yet.  I plan on doing that on lunch today.  I feel like such a moron!  At least it was about time for an oil change, i just wish she told me in a more sublte manner.  UGH!
does the header on the newer bikes not go under the oil filter like the older monsters?
'00 M900s

BMiller

#25
August 11, 2012, 09:56:17 PM
Quote from: rsoffar on August 11, 2012, 10:50:05 AM
does the header on the newer bikes not go under the oil filter like the older monsters?

No, it goes up and over on the side.  It looks great and gives great clearance.  That must have been a decent sized curb.
2003 Ducati 748S

Privateer

#26
August 12, 2012, 10:07:04 AM
it's interesting that the the 796/1100 has a more exposed filter than the older 696 from the pictures I've seen.  Not that it'd be more or less likely to be damaged, but for the 1-in-a-million (un)lucky rock...

2011(?) 796:


2009(?) 696:



It seems to have changed in 2010 because the newer 696 seems to have the same as the 796/1100 now.  Cheaper to cast or ease of maint?
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Raux

#27
August 12, 2012, 10:29:59 AM
New castings. lighter
all the models benefited

the_Journeyman

#28
August 12, 2012, 12:58:44 PM
My M750 is more like the bottom 696 picture, if my filter was as exposed as the upper 796 pic, I might be a little concerned about riding the amount of gravel I do.

JM
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Quote from: r_ciao on January 28, 2011, 10:30:29 AM
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ducatiz

#29
August 12, 2012, 01:13:04 PM
In all the years I've had Ducatis with a filter on the underside (Bevels had it on top) I've never had a problem.

My Elefant has a skid plate and gobs of underside clearance.

The metal in that filter (at least the ones I've cut open, see my sig below) are pretty damn thick. No rock is going to do too much even at speed.
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