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2011 WSBK Round 4: Monza--5/8 (SPOILERS)

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ducpainter

#15
May 08, 2011, 03:25:30 PM
Quote from: kopfjäger on May 08, 2011, 03:13:55 PM
What a bullshit make the beast with two backsing call that was.  [bang]
It was...and it wasn't.

I don't think they gave him a ride through for gaining an advantage.

They did it because he didn't re-enter the track according to the rules.
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kopfjäger

#16
May 08, 2011, 03:36:17 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on May 08, 2011, 03:25:30 PM
It was...and it wasn't.

I don't think they gave him a ride through for gaining an advantage.

They did it because he didn't re-enter the track according to the rules.

You gotta explain that one then.
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ducpainter

#17
May 08, 2011, 03:47:05 PM
Quote from: kopfjäger on May 08, 2011, 03:36:17 PM
You gotta explain that one then.
They have a prescribed method of re-entering the track if you blow that corner...there are a set of white lines you have to stay between to renter. According to the eurosport feed he didn't gain any time.

I don't think the little emperor figured he had to follow that rule...like he figured he didn't have to do a ride through earlier this year.

My take is race direction is making a point.
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 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
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kopfjäger

#18
May 08, 2011, 03:51:51 PM
>cough< Bullshit>cough<
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ducpainter

#19
May 08, 2011, 04:01:10 PM
Quote from: kopfjäger on May 08, 2011, 03:51:51 PM
>cough< Bullshit>cough<
sucks to be Max.
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a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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kopfjäger

#20
May 08, 2011, 04:09:17 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on May 08, 2011, 04:01:10 PM
sucks to be Max.

Not as much as Reay
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ducpainter

#21
May 08, 2011, 04:13:55 PM
Quote from: kopfjäger on May 08, 2011, 04:09:17 PM
Not as much as Reay
That was nasty...

did he get hurt?

They were saying, again on the eurosport feed, that Checa got into the back of Rea which put him down, and you could see Smyrz get collected. Wasn't Haslam involved too?

I've seen lots of people run into others and it's always the one with the front wheel involved that goes down. I don't see how Checa could have caused it.
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    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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kopfjäger

#22
May 08, 2011, 05:33:38 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on May 08, 2011, 04:13:55 PM
That was nasty...

did he get hurt?

They were saying, again on the eurosport feed, that Checa got into the back of Rea which put him down, and you could see Smyrz get collected. Wasn't Haslam involved too?

I've seen lots of people run into others and it's always the one with the front wheel involved that goes down. I don't see how Checa could have caused it.


"Carlos Checa cut across the nose of Johnny Rea, causing the Castrol Honda rider to crash, taking Jakub Smrz and Leon Haslam with him."
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ducpainter

#23
May 08, 2011, 05:52:01 PM
Quote from: kopfjäger on May 08, 2011, 05:33:38 PM

"Carlos Checa cut across the nose of Johnny Rea, causing the Castrol Honda rider to crash, taking Jakub Smrz and Leon Haslam with him."
I'll watch it again.

If you think about it...

it's a bunch of racers heading in to 1...like moto 2...they all want the best position possible.

Not all of them make it. :-\
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a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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kopfjäger

#24
May 08, 2011, 06:02:20 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on May 08, 2011, 05:52:01 PM
I'll watch it again.

If you think about it...

it's a bunch of racers heading in to 1...like moto 2...they all want the best position possible.

Not all of them make it. :-\

No...you mean like in Moto2 it's part of racing......?  :D
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ducpainter

#25
May 08, 2011, 06:04:43 PM
sumthin' like that.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”


fastwin

#26
May 08, 2011, 08:02:56 PM
On a completely different note, just started watching my tivo'd race one and they did a scan down the grid and stopped at Troy Corser who had on a sponsor hat that had "pussy" on it!!! Ah... WTF kind of sponsor is "pussy"??? What do they do and how much would they have to pay you to wear that hat?? Curious minds want to know! [bang] [laugh]
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#27
May 08, 2011, 08:30:40 PM
Quote from: fastwin on May 08, 2011, 08:02:56 PM
On a completely different note, just started watching my tivo'd race one and they did a scan down the grid and stopped at Troy Corser who had on a sponsor hat that had "pussy" on it!!! Ah... WTF kind of sponsor is "pussy"??? What do they do and how much would they have to pay you to wear that hat?? Curious minds want to know! [bang] [laugh]

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ducatiz

#28
May 08, 2011, 08:47:25 PM
Quote from: fastwin on May 08, 2011, 08:02:56 PM
On a completely different note, just started watching my tivo'd race one and they did a scan down the grid and stopped at Troy Corser who had on a sponsor hat that had "pussy" on it!!! Ah... WTF kind of sponsor is "pussy"??? What do they do and how much would they have to pay you to wear that hat?? Curious minds want to know! [bang] [laugh]

I am not surprised at all.  It's an energy drink.  Racers have been trying to get it for ages.  Everyone has been trying to get Pussy.

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#29
May 08, 2011, 09:35:47 PM
Biaggi got screwed, plain and simple. He went from a 5 second lead to 11th place...and was lucky to finish 8th and in the points. The re-entering theory is BS (even if it is why they did it)...he didn't seem to re-enter any different than other people who blew that corner. Even if he did, who cares...he was alone and knew it. Subtracting 2-3 seconds from his final time (so he would have had to win by that much) would have been reasonable.

That said...

...it made for a fantastic race 2!!  ;D ;D Laverty at the end!  [bow_down] [bow_down] The Haga, Fabrizio battle was great as well. I was cheering for Haga, but whatever. Great racing.

Race 1 was super as well.  [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
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