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Started by Dave H, July 01, 2011, 10:46:21 AM

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Dave H

July 01, 2011, 10:46:21 AM
Can you powder coat the 1100 wheels, like the black ones but the older ones are silver or gold?

Raux

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July 01, 2011, 10:47:16 AM
a lot of people say powdercoating can weaken the wheels. better to paint.

ducatiz

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July 01, 2011, 11:00:13 AM
Quote from: Raux on July 01, 2011, 10:47:16 AM
a lot of people say powdercoating can weaken the wheels. better to paint.

If the powdercoater has done aluminum alloy wheels previously and knows the heat must be lower to cure the powder, then there should be no effect at all.  The issue is the amount of heat used to cure the powder, which if too high can affect the temper of the metal.

I've had a few aluminum wheels done and no issues. Magnesium wheels are even more tricky.
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July 01, 2011, 04:34:10 PM
the heat in powdercoating is 400degrees. it is in the oven for 1 hour. you need more than that kind of time to remove the annealing.
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July 02, 2011, 07:23:41 AM
paint em instead.
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ChrisH

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July 02, 2011, 09:18:15 AM
Quote from: He Man on July 01, 2011, 04:34:10 PM
the heat in powdercoating is 400degrees. it is in the oven for 1 hour. you need more than that kind of time to remove the annealing.


+1 I've had several wheels powdeercoated, no problemo.
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ducatiz

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July 02, 2011, 11:25:50 AM
Quote from: He Man on July 01, 2011, 04:34:10 PM
the heat in powdercoating is 400degrees. it is in the oven for 1 hour. you need more than that kind of time to remove the annealing.


Most aluminums are heat treated in the 300-325F range.   You need to tell the PC guy that this is an alu wheel.  400F at an hour is probably not going to affect the aluminum much, but IIRC the guy who did my Oscam wheels said he cures the powder at a lower temp for aluminum wheels (didn't ask the temp for some reason).  He also said they have a little harder time because they have to blast the old stuff off instead of using a chemical remover, which they use on steel with no problem.

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Dave H

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July 03, 2011, 04:14:46 AM
I have had other alloy wheels powder coated with no problems, just wasn't sure about ducati ones

kopfjäger

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July 03, 2011, 05:33:18 AM
Quote from: Dave H on July 03, 2011, 04:14:46 AM
I have had other alloy wheels powder coated with no problems, just wasn't sure about ducati ones

Because their Alloy is different?
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ducatiz

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July 03, 2011, 05:38:18 AM
Quote from: kopfjäger on July 03, 2011, 05:33:18 AM
Because their Alloy is different?

It is likely it's not the same Alu alloy, but that still shouldn't matter.
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Raux

#10
July 03, 2011, 05:40:56 AM
just for clarification. Ducati doesn't make wheels.

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ducpainter

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July 03, 2011, 07:21:19 AM
It's not the cure temp as much as the fact many coaters use the oven to actually burn old finishes off before blasting because it's faster.

In those circumstances temps can reach 8000
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July 03, 2011, 07:25:35 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on July 03, 2011, 07:21:19 AM
It's not the cure temp as much as the fact many coaters use the oven to actually burn old finishes off before blasting because it's faster.

In those circumstances temps can reach 8000

Sounds like a lazy powdercoater.
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July 04, 2011, 05:04:01 AM
8000f would age aluminim to the point that it would fail under the SMallest pressure. 

None of the pc guys I've used did that;  all have used soda blasting. 
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ducpainter

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July 04, 2011, 05:35:09 AM
Quote from: ChrisH on July 03, 2011, 07:25:35 PM
Sounds like a lazy powdercoater.
Agreed
Quote from: ducatiz on July 04, 2011, 05:04:01 AM
8000f would age aluminim to the point that it would fail under the SMallest pressure. 

None of the pc guys I've used did that;  all have used soda blasting. 
Soda or glass?

In my experience soda doesn't remove much paint.
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