2012 Silly Season

[fastwin]

Good thinking on Laverty's part. Of course I like Leon Camier and he's sort of left hanging out in the breeze with Laverty signing with 'priller. Bet he doesn't want to go to BMW either! When will BMW stop screwing around trying to reinvent the wheel (no pun intended! ) and just go with the stuff that works for everyone else? Damn, all they did was build a German made inline 4 Jap SBK with the S1000RR anyway! Why put on a "we can do it better ourselves" show now when they are just racing a Jap SBK knock off to begin with? WTF?? It obvious the bike has potential but look how freaking good the 'priller was right out of the box in comparison. Oh well...

[derby]

...but look how freaking good the 'priller was right out of the box in comparison. Oh well...

which motogp program did bmw base the s1000rr off of? 

[desmoquattro]

which motogp program did bmw base the s1000rr off of? 

Laverda

[Speeddog]

Laverda

[EvilSteve]

I really hope that Dovi gets a factory spec M1. It may not be that much different from the satellite for 2012 but it sends the wrong message if it isn't IMO.

[gm2]

I really hope that Dovi gets a factory spec M1. It may not be that much different from the satellite for 2012 but it sends the wrong message if it isn't IMO.

not much different to start with anyway.  and i'm pretty sure that if he were getting a factory bike that would have been clearly stated.

[gm2]

http://www.motomatters.com/analysis/2011/10/11/2012_motogp_silly_season_are_we_facing_a.html

[zarn02]

A possible 15 bike grid?

The move back to 1000cc bikes better be the panacea MotoGP is looking for, or it's going to be a(nother) monumentally boring season.

[duccarlos]

But we still watch. Should DMG take over and try to do MotoGP Nascar style?

[desmoquattro]

But we still watch. Should DMG take over and try to do MotoGP Nascar style?

Rolling starts, no right turns, and "stock" configurations...sign me up!

[gm2]

i agree that a larger grid is better.. sometimes there are several groups worth watching.. but apart from the fact that a 15 bike grid doesn't bode well for the series as a whole, for me it's a lot less of an issue than whether or not the racing at the front gets better with the bigger bikes.  single-line racing isn't fun for anyone.

[Spidey]

for me it's a lot less of an issue than whether or not the racing at the front gets better with the bigger bikes.  single-line racing isn't fun for anyone.

I don't know that the big bikes are going to be that much better.  So much more of the race is won or lost before the race starts than was true in the 990 era, and certainly in the 500s.  Set-up and electronics and tires are still going to play a MASSIVE role, regardless of whether the new bikes have low-end grunt.  They're still not going to be the point-n-shoot machines we see in WSBK.  They'll be just be hold-corner-speed 800s on steroids.  I hope I'm wrong.

And I still expect there to be a de facto weight penalty for larger riders with the 21L limit.  Simo is still fuxored at the end of a race when the computer tells him he's only allowed 37 hp.

Since we're talking 2012, when is Marquez gonna announce?     I dig that kid (for now). 

[gm2]

I don't know that the big bikes are going to be that much better.  So much more of the race is won or lost before the race starts than was true in the 990 era, and certainly in the 500s.  Set-up and electronics and tires are still going to play a MASSIVE role, regardless of whether the new bikes have low-end grunt.  They're still not going to be the point-n-shoot machines we see in WSBK.  They'll be just be hold-corner-speed 800s on steroids.  I hope I'm wrong.

i don't think you're necessarily wrong, i just think there will be a few more overtaking opportunities than there were in the 800 era.  le mans might not suck as much.  the last corner at sepang should be interesting.  etc.

in other words,

like everything in motogp, it will be tiny changes.

Since we're talking 2012, when is Marquez gonna announce?     I dig that kid (for now). 

no kidding!

i think it was in emmett's moto3 article that he talked about how much $$ is in marquez's moto2 machine.  really interested to see what he can do on a less than tits machine.

[Spidey]

really interested to see what he can do on a less than tits machine.

Like a factory Honda?!?  

[fastwin]

I just don't think Marquez is the prodigal son that will spruce up what will probably be another ho hum year of racing but on 1000cc bikes. He could just be another Elias. Does well in Moto2 but just another back marker with the big boys. But you can bet your ass the Spanish motorcycle mafia will try and squeeze him out a ride with Repsol. Anybody got any pics of him talking to Puig? Pedrobot should be very worried.