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Safe to Ride this tire?

Started by The ModFather, October 09, 2011, 07:08:20 PM

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The ModFather

I'm no expert but something tells me this tire on my 2005 620 looks like it needs replacing. Can someone tell me if its safe to ride this thing the 28 miles (half of which is highway) to my local Duc Shop (MCC Villa Park) or am I better off just getting a new tire put on at the Honda Cycle Shop 5 miles away?

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Monsterlover

I think I would stay off the slab with that thing. 

I wouldn't have a problem riding it to the Duc dealer but that's me (and I'd go slow)

Probably best to play it safe here and stop at Honda.
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

muskrat

weigh the options:
1. Hospital bills if things turn to shit - $5k +
2. Peace of mind is priceless IMO
3. You only have two wheels, I would not ride that thing more than 5 miles at 35 mph

Can we thin the gene pool? 

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DRKWNG

Quote from: Monsterlover on October 09, 2011, 08:08:55 PM
Probably best to play it safe here and stop at Honda.

Agreed.  I'd also strongly consider a sport touring tire as the replacement, as the sides of this one still look great while the center it toast.
And the sugar fountain fairy swore so hard when she came to super-size that stale hope soybean; liiiike a homeless German woman. Who is this super-sizing spirit-crushing femme? And tell her I'll break a tree root up in her shrimp.

Being faster than you thought possible…it feels good. No, screw thatâ€"it feels like shotgunning a gallon of adrenaline and chasing it with an all-night orgy aboard a burning Viking boat.

nikkimonster

i would keep the tire ONLY if all i did was lean and not ride straight.

Desmo Demon

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Quote from: Duck Off on October 09, 2011, 07:08:20 PM
Can someone tell me if its safe to ride this thing the 28 miles (half of which is highway) to my local Duc Shop (MCC Villa Park) or am I better off just getting a new tire put on at the Honda Cycle Shop 5 miles away
I won't tell you it is "safe" and I won't tell you that you should ride to either dealership, but....

I wouldn't hesitate to ride to the shop that is 28 miles away, even if it was 100% straight superslab.



I currently have tires that are worse than yours on my ST2 and the GSXR-1100. I currently use both mainly for commuting, and I wouldn't have any issues riding either of them the 50+ miles round-trip; and probably will a few more times before changing them out.

Places I've been on two wheels:

IBA #32735

justinrhenry

it should be changed, but if it were me i'd ride it that way the 28 miles.  of course, if there's a bike shop closer why the hell would you go 28 miles just to get a tire changed at a ducati shop?
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2003 Ducati Monster 620ie

DRKWNG

There's some real smart folk on here...
And the sugar fountain fairy swore so hard when she came to super-size that stale hope soybean; liiiike a homeless German woman. Who is this super-sizing spirit-crushing femme? And tell her I'll break a tree root up in her shrimp.

Being faster than you thought possible…it feels good. No, screw thatâ€"it feels like shotgunning a gallon of adrenaline and chasing it with an all-night orgy aboard a burning Viking boat.

Desmo Demon

Quote from: DRKWNG on October 10, 2011, 08:48:18 AM
There's some real smart folk on here...
And some people believe the sky is falling because everyone else seems to think so. I am curious though, what is your first-hand, personal experience with riding on tires like this?

Places I've been on two wheels:

IBA #32735

DRKWNG

Me personally?  None, because I haven't let my tires get that bad.  I have seen three different people's tires let go on them while riding though; all because they were sure they could go that much further on them. 
And the sugar fountain fairy swore so hard when she came to super-size that stale hope soybean; liiiike a homeless German woman. Who is this super-sizing spirit-crushing femme? And tell her I'll break a tree root up in her shrimp.

Being faster than you thought possible…it feels good. No, screw thatâ€"it feels like shotgunning a gallon of adrenaline and chasing it with an all-night orgy aboard a burning Viking boat.

Monsterlover

I'll answer that question.

I pushed one rear tire farther than either of those pictured because I was broke and wanted to ride anyway.

I could see the cords showing here and there and figured it would hold for just a little longer.

I was on the slab on night coming home and the vibration started.  It got worse and worse.  Chunks of tire were pealing off from around the corded area and by the time I made it home (slowly) some of the cords had started to break.

I don't think it would have went two more miles.
"The Vincent was like a bullet that went straight; the Ducati is like the magic bullet in Dallas that went sideways and hit JFK and the Governor of Texas at the same time."--HST    **"A man who works with his hands is a laborer.  A man who works with his hands and his brain is a craftsman.  A man who works with his hands, brains, and heart is an artist."  -Louis Nizer**

justinrhenry

When my tire just barely starts to show the steel, like the OP's, is when I have mine changed.  I have no qualms about riding a bike with a tire like that, but I do ride gently and get a new tire asap. 
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Desmo Demon

Quote from: DRKWNG on October 10, 2011, 08:57:43 AM
Me personally?  None,
My wife and I have run every tire to bald or to the cords (including the front) since 2006, which translates to more than 70 tires, and we've never had a problem with any of them failing. In 2009, we each ran on at least one bald/cords tire every month (ran through 28 tires that year). When wear bars are almost always hit in less than 2000 miles, and have been hit in under 1000 miles (my wife ran a new FRONT Pilot Race to bald in 890 miles once), we simply can't afford to change them as soon as a wear bar is hit when we can ride over 40k miles in a year.

As I stated, I don't really recommend that anyone ride on them or want anyone to think it is "safe", but due to my experiences of riding somewhere in the neighborhood of 15k+ miles on bald tires or with cords showing, I, personally, don't have any issues with riding on tires like this.

Places I've been on two wheels:

IBA #32735

DRKWNG

I'm not advocating changing out tires as soon as a wear bar is hit.  I'm just saying that I would never let mine get to the point of showing that many cords.
And the sugar fountain fairy swore so hard when she came to super-size that stale hope soybean; liiiike a homeless German woman. Who is this super-sizing spirit-crushing femme? And tell her I'll break a tree root up in her shrimp.

Being faster than you thought possible…it feels good. No, screw thatâ€"it feels like shotgunning a gallon of adrenaline and chasing it with an all-night orgy aboard a burning Viking boat.