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School me on Amateur Racing

Started by The Bearded Duc, January 11, 2012, 02:21:11 PM

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triangleforge

A photo of one of the fastest guys I know (2010 winner of the CCS Southwest Lightweight Championship on a Hyosung) and the entirety of his fan club addresses some of your questions:

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Goat_Herder

Quote from: triangleforge on January 13, 2012, 09:21:58 AM
A photo of one of the fastest guys I know (2010 winner of the CCS Southwest Lightweight Championship on a Hyosung) and the entirety of his fan club addresses some of your questions:


If my kid wears a t-shirt like that for me, that's all I can ask for.  :)
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he must be doing well.  he can afford 2 shirts. [bacon]
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Quote from: atomic410 on January 17, 2012, 07:50:52 AM
he must be doing well.  he can afford 2 shirts. [bacon]

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Quote from: zooom on January 13, 2012, 07:06:01 AM
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/May/110505ben-younger.htm

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Jun/110615y-y-y-y.htm

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Aug/11081138special1.htm

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Sep/11092838spec2.htm

this should be some good reading for OP-duc750 on this very subject in terms of some of the very things you are asking about....




Thanks for the links zooom!   [thumbsup]




BTW, to all of you...
Why isn't there more notoriety in amateur racing (i.e. press, television airings, etc.). It seems like you kind of have to be part of the circle to know what's going on in it. Doesn't anyone want to be more "noticed"?

I'm assuming all of this of course, since I've never been to a race.
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derby

Quote from: duc750 on January 17, 2012, 03:38:20 PM

BTW, to all of you...
Why isn't there more notoriety in amateur racing (i.e. press, television airings, etc.). It seems like you kind of have to be part of the circle to know what's going on in it. Doesn't anyone want to be more "noticed"?


who's gonna pay for all this press, tv, etc?

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The Bearded Duc

Quote from: derby on January 17, 2012, 03:43:52 PM
who's gonna pay for all this press, tv, etc?



Who's pays for everything as it stands? Does it come out of the cost per race?
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ducpainter

Quote from: duc750 on January 17, 2012, 03:56:26 PM
Who's pays for everything as it stands? Does it come out of the cost per race?
Yeah...rider entry fees.

Not many spectators pay to go watch club racing
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The Bearded Duc

Quote from: ducpainter on January 17, 2012, 04:00:21 PM
Yeah...rider entry fees.

Not many spectators pay to go watch club racing

Well shit, that sucks...
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ducpainter

Quote from: duc750 on January 17, 2012, 04:07:05 PM
Well shit, that sucks...
I didn't dream up the reality of the situation.

Just the way it is.

If you want to go racing and can afford it you should go.

I'm a track day guy. I don't have much desire to get taken out by someone desiring a plastic trophy.

Probly 'cuz I'm old. ;D
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Quote from: ducpainter on January 17, 2012, 04:32:59 PM

I don't have much desire to get taken out by someone desiring a plastic trophy.

Probly 'cuz I'm old. ;D



[laugh] [laugh]
Good point!
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Triple J

Quote from: ducpainter on January 17, 2012, 04:32:59 PM

I'm a track day guy. I don't have much desire to get taken out by someone desiring a plastic trophy.

Probly 'cuz I'm old. ;D


FWIW, I've had more close calls at trackdays than in races. I think you get more asshat wannabes at trackdays, by far. Unless you're riding in the Expert group...but then the majority of them are racers. At least that's how it is around here.

zooom

Quote from: Triple J on January 17, 2012, 07:40:28 PM
FWIW, I've had more close calls at trackdays than in races. I think you get more asshat wannabes at trackdays, by far. Unless you're riding in the Expert group...but then the majority of them are racers. At least that's how it is around here.

depends on the trackday org and group...like, I think NESBA puts too many people on the track at once in general for example...and I have seen some asshattery moreso in A groups due to the lack of passing rules than in other groups....
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ducpainter

Like zooom says, I think it depends on the organizer.

There's no inside passing in any group...period...at the days I ride...

except when some racer wannabe breaks the rules. :P
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atomic410

being that i race and coach for a track school i will say that trackdays are way........way......way......more dangerous.  track days consist of people who do 2-4 per year at a given track.  racers are there 5-7 WEEKENDS a year and some of those trackdays.  generally there are more people on the track at a given time on several different levels of bikes and they are grouped, to the best ability of the orgs, into 2-4 groups.  its amazing some of the shit i've seen at trackdays.  this past year i wanted to kill some guy for cutting out of the coned in track exit into me to do 1 more lap, I've also seen people hit the brakes from full 6th gear pinned throttle to go through turn 1 at BIR Long which you do not need to brake for at all this could result in the ultimate 140mph+ ass packing of one's life.  also keep in mind that if you are slower than the rest of the pack you'll be at the back of it by the 2nd turn where there are no other riders to take you out for the plastic trophy, dfl doesn't get a trophy.  Trackdays are a great way to ride in a controlled enviroment and see what you and the bike can do but to dismiss racing for being more dangerous is just plain wrong.
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