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Rossi vs. Ducati...and more spoilers

Started by gm2, April 11, 2012, 06:33:00 PM

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Quote from: Speeddog on April 12, 2012, 04:16:30 PM
Rossi going up against Stoner, Pedrosa, Lorenzo with a satellite Yamaha?

'Cause I can't see Yamaha giving him a full-factory bike to compete with their own factory riders.

Maybe they might still give him what he wants, they still have a high regard for him. Psuedo factory team?
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gm2

Quote from: Speeddog on April 12, 2012, 04:16:30 PM
'Cause I can't see Yamaha giving him a full-factory bike to compete with their own factory riders.

i can, definitely.
Like this is the racing, no?

Mugen939

Quote from: Speeddog on April 12, 2012, 04:16:30 PM
Rossi going up against Stoner, Pedrosa, Lorenzo with a satellite Yamaha?

'Cause I can't see Yamaha giving him a full-factory bike to compete with their own factory riders.

Just means more podiums for a yamaha bike. They'll definitely do it. Manufacturers don't care about taking care of their star riders, they care about advertising the brand.

OT

Quote from: Speeddog on April 12, 2012, 04:16:30 PM
'Cause I can't see Yamaha giving him a full-factory bike to compete with their own factory riders.

Factory Yamaha will rehire Rossi and send The Ben packing.....bet the ranch on it  [thumbsup]

zooom

Quote from: OT on April 12, 2012, 09:07:27 PM
Factory Yamaha will rehire Rossi and send The Ben packing.....bet the ranch on it  [thumbsup]

now that is far fetched and crazy...but not impossible...
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Quote from: zooom on April 13, 2012, 04:02:57 AM
now that is far fetched and crazy...but not impossible...
Why...because a large Japanese corporation would show loyalty to an American employee that hasn't produced at a winning level?

Rossi in tenth is a bigger draw than Ben in ninth...
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WELL...here is my reasoning....Rossi had a small tantrum with Yammie when he left, but it was nowhere near as spiteful as when he left Honda, it was a salvagable type of break-up of sorts...it would take a bit of pride swallowing...but doable...

that is on the Rossi side of things....

on The Ben side of things....IF he gets results and it is a measurable seat of the points and starts generating the expected performance they had hoped for, he stands a much better bargaining chip in the whole deal and pushes some of the other early silly season strings around to his favor...
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Quote from: zooom on April 13, 2012, 04:23:25 AM
<snip>
on The Ben side of things....IF he gets results <snip>
[popcorn]

Still waiting...
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BMiller

Glad to see I'm not the only one who hasn't drank from the Rossi Koolaid.  I'll admit he is/was an amazing rider, but I don't really care for him and I never have...plus I don't think enough credit was given to the Yamaha he was riding.  Putting him on a Ducati doesn't make me like him any better.  I bet if Nicky had shifted to Honda again....he may have already achieved another GP overall win just like Stoner.  Ducati has some work ahead of them and I hope for their sake Rossi can get it together and finish right behind Nicky  [laugh]
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ZLTFUL

Quote from: BMiller on April 13, 2012, 06:33:47 AM
Glad to see I'm not the only one who hasn't drank from the Rossi Koolaid.  I'll admit he is/was an amazing rider, but I don't really care for him and I never have...plus I don't think enough credit was given to the Yamaha he was riding.  Putting him on a Ducati doesn't make me like him any better.  I bet if Nicky had shifted to Honda again....he may have already achieved another GP overall win just like Stoner.  Ducati has some work ahead of them and I hope for their sake Rossi can get it together and finish right behind Nicky  [laugh]

Ok...just want to get this straight...So it's not the rider, it's the bike...except when it's the rider and not the bike. But if it's the right rider and the right bike, then it's the rider AND the bike?
Gotcha.

Oh and you don't like Rossi.

Glad we had a chance to clear that up.
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Quote from: ZLTFUL on April 13, 2012, 07:28:40 AM
Ok...just want to get this straight...So it's not the rider, it's the bike...except when it's the rider and not the bike. But if it's the right rider and the right bike, then it's the rider AND the bike?
Gotcha.

Oh and you don't like Rossi.

Glad we had a chance to clear that up.

It's a combination of both.  No I don't like Rossi [laugh] [beer]
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gm2

That thing about nicky would already have another championship is a good one =)
Like this is the racing, no?

MadDuck

OK, there is definitely a bike problem. How truly bad we don't know for sure but it's a hand full and if there is only one rider that has been able to win with it in the past that also speaks volumes about how good/bad it is. If Rossi doesn't like it enough to try harder, i.e. he doesn't think it's close enough for him to try so hard that it increases his chances of crashing over an otherwise better set up bike, then that is a rider problem to some degree also. The other Ducati riders are trying harder and maybe they have more to prove than he does. Then again, Rossi is making loud statements about the bike in any way and any where he can. Do you think he might sit out the next race in two weeks?
No modification goes unpunished. Memento mori.  Good people drink good beer.  Things happen pretty fast at high speeds.

It's all up to your will level, your thrill level and your skill level.  Everything else is just fluff.

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Quote from: MacDuck on April 13, 2012, 09:44:28 AM
  Do you think he might sit out the next race in two weeks?

nope...
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