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clips on or rear sets first?

Started by sejman, April 18, 2012, 07:59:23 PM

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sejman

I think I know the answer, but I'm curious to get opinions.  I am getting ready to do my second track day and I'm getting the bike ready.  It's a basically stock 2001 M900S.  I need new rubber - the old Pilot Roads didn't due much for my confidence and since I'm not commuting anymore on it, I plan to put some sticky Dunlop Sportmax Q2s on.  The other issue that I was dealing with was body position.  There are times on the track during hard braking and downhill/braking that I felt like I could go over the front of the bike if I wasn't careful.  My first thought was to get clip-ons and get my upper body lower, but I'm also concerned that the better tires will have me dragging my toes more than I already was (never got a knee down, but my toe sliders scraped with the balls of my feet on the pegs).  I'm not sure that I want to do both at the same time...seems like gradual changes are better.  But maybe this is one of those areas where you need to make two coordinated changes to make either work right.

minnesotamonster

IMO the stock rear sets on the older dss bikes are a pregnant dog on the track. I could never get my feet in the right position. So I would say rear sets. I had clip ons at the time though so couldn't tell you if having bars is worse or not.
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1998 Honda F3 (Track)
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seanster

I'm running race rearsets with stock bar....

At first I noticed my feet positions are higher than stock. I hug the tank more and it is comfortable for me during long ride.  I like it very much.  I will eventually go with clipon to get the weight a bit more forward and lower my hands position.

I have no track experience so I can't help much here.
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MotoPsycho

Having done a few track days with clip ons under the triple and stock rearsets, I learned very quickly dragging pegs is bad. Dragging mufflers is worse as that caused me to lowside on some pavement ripples. My list would go as such: High pipes, rearsets then clip ons. That's a gradual progression that will follow skill level. The forward weight bias of the bars makes the biggest difference in handling but that's redundant if you're dragging stuff everywhere.
Edgar: '99 M750 - 2009 Indy Ducati Rat Bike Award Winner