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Wet to Dry Clutch conversion

Started by Pedro-bot, May 01, 2012, 08:15:14 PM

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Pedro-bot

So from time to time I know someone raises the question about this type of modification.
I previously searched this and TOB without much success on DETAILS. Most of the searches lead to dead ends.
Thought I would post this here for other members to use as future reference.

Found this link to a UK enthusiast that converted his M620 to dry clutch.
Has pics, a list of parts AND an attached document with rough diagram and custom spacer sizes.  [thumbsup]

http://www.ukmonster.co.uk/monster/showthread.php?t=37403&highlight=dry+clutch+conversion











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kopfjäger

Finished product should look like this.  ;)

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Pedro-bot

NICE!!

Your bike?

Any long-term update on reliability of mod?
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kopfjäger

Quote from: Pedro-bot on May 01, 2012, 08:23:30 PM
NICE!!

Your bike?

Any long-term update on reliability of mod?

No issues. Same as a stock dry clutch.
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Pedro-bot

Quote from: kraptaker on May 01, 2012, 08:27:39 PM
No issues. Same as a stock dry clutch.

Hmmm.....

How many miles on that setup?

Again, your bike?  Your write up?  ???
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kopfjäger

Quote from: Pedro-bot on May 01, 2012, 08:48:11 PM
Hmmm.....

How many miles on that setup?

Again, your bike?  Your write up?  ???

5k no write up as I didn't do the work. (I do what I do for a living so you can do what you do  ;))

Bike is flawless.
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Pedro-bot

That's a decent amount of miles on that conversion. Great to hear it's holding up fine.  [thumbsup]

I think we need more pics of your bike.  ;D

Thanks for your service.  [leo] ( ** mods, we need a military smiley, using the leo as a stand in for now.  :P )
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Quote from: Pedro-bot on May 01, 2012, 09:14:28 PM
Thanks for your service.  [leo] ( ** mods, we need a military smiley, using the leo as a stand in for now.  :P )

Please don't confuse the the 2. Please  :D
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Quote from: kraptaker on May 01, 2012, 10:58:00 PM
Please don't confuse the the 2. Please  :D
many of us has worn both hats.  Just saying...


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I'm not talented enough to do the conversion on my own so I priced it out using DucPond to do the work on my 06 S2R 800.  Total was in the neighborhood of $2000-$2500 (includes parts and labor).  Maybe one of these days I'll drop the coin to have the job done.  Similarly buying a good condition engine from an S2R1000 would cost roughly the same amount of money. 
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Quote from: Pedro-bot on May 01, 2012, 09:14:28 PM
That's a decent amount of miles on that conversion. Great to hear it's holding up fine.  [thumbsup]

I think we need more pics of your bike.  ;D

Thanks for your service.  [leo] ( ** mods, we need a military smiley, using the leo as a stand in for now.  :P )

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Quote from: MonstaS2R on May 02, 2012, 07:59:41 AM
I'm not talented enough to do the conversion on my own so I priced it out using DucPond to do the work on my 06 S2R 800.  Total was in the neighborhood of $2000-$2500 (includes parts and labor).  Maybe one of these days I'll drop the coin to have the job done.  Similarly buying a good condition engine from an S2R1000 would cost roughly the same amount of money. 

they did an SS800 that was run in the MotoST series for 2 seasons and that bike was fine in terms of the clutch...Donnie did a lot of work to make that bike happen and work....
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Pedro-bot

Quote from: MonstaS2R on May 02, 2012, 07:59:41 AM
I'm not talented enough to do the conversion on my own so I priced it out using DucPond to do the work on my 06 S2R 800.  Total was in the neighborhood of $2000-$2500 (includes parts and labor).  Maybe one of these days I'll drop the coin to have the job done.  Similarly buying a good condition engine from an S2R1000 would cost roughly the same amount of money. 

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Parts needed are,
748 clutch casing
748 clutch basket
748 oil pump gear/crankshaft gear and clutch hub gear
748 clutch plates
3 custom made spacers, these do have to be very accurate.

Existing parts used are,
620 pressure plate and retaining springs/cups
620 clutch hub (modified)

Checking ebay prices shows about $550 in parts, going by the list above, without custom machined spacers. Though the spacers shouldn't be much more than $50-60 for all 3.

Still, definitely cheaper to source a 900/1000 motor.
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