2013 Silly Season?...maybe spoilers

[Speeddog]

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why would you care if they can field 6 Hondas?
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The funding available for private teams isn't enough to support that many satellites, at Honda's current going rate.
The factories drove the cost out of sight.

Dorna needs to suggest that the manu's make their motors available for lease/sale at a signifigant rate difference to a whole bike,
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Factories will not sell prototype motors.
DORNA *did* suggest that the factories furnish engines for lease, IIRC Honda came back with a price for an engine ~2/3 the price of a whole bike.

[duccarlos]

Did that include the electronics? Without that the engine would be pretty useless.

[ducpainter]

yup

Just a matter of time.

[Speeddog]

I was wrong:
Requests from Dorna, the FIM and IRTA to lease engines on their own met with resistance, and then were offered at a cost that was not a viable option, around 70% of the lease of a full bike.

http://motomatters.com/analysis/2011/11/22/crt_faq_everything_you_always_wanted_to_.html

[zooom]

WELL...here's an option to throw out there...Mugen ( who is the figurehead name/team running the loosely veiled HRC electric bike team in TT ) could all of the sudden get a lease deal on some RC213V motors for to be put into a chassis made by the same folks that make Marquez's current chassis ands VOILA...not a Satelite and yet, still factory supported in CRT format...

[Speeddog]

WELL...here's an option to throw out there...Mugen ( who is the figurehead name/team running the loosely veiled HRC electric bike team in TT ) could all of the sudden get a lease deal on some RC213V motors for to be put into a chassis made by the same folks that make Marquez's current chassis ands VOILA...not a Satelite and yet, still factory supported in CRT format...

A) Depends on how the engine is supported, factory personnel babysitter or Mugen babysitter... look to the section "Would WCM qualify as a Claiming Rule Team with their bike based on the Yamaha R1? Would Team KR qualify as a Claiming Rule Team with their KR211V and KR212V?" in my previous link.

B) As a CRT, it would be subject to having it's engine claimed. It would be quite a race between Yamaha and Ducati personnel to submit the forms to claim that RC213V lump for a mere 20k Euro.

[zooom]

I thought that only a CRT team can claim a CRT motor....

[Jester]

I thought that only a CRT team can claim a CRT motor....

Factory teams can claim, although as stated in other material, its highly unlikely they would ever consider it.  It just keeps any other non factory manufacturer from tossing in a highly developed engine for fear of the technology being stolen.

[duccarlos]

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Jun/120613-46.htm

[gm2]

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Jun/120613-46.htm

i've been thinking a factory honda @ Gresini is the most likely option..

[duccarlos]

i've been thinking a factory honda @ Gresini is the most likely option..

Either stay at Ducati or this option.

[zooom]

Rumors posted in SBKPlanet.com say that Pedrosa and Hayden are close to signing new contracts with their current employment...

[duccarlos]

Now that is interesting. Pedrosa staying with HRC means that they probably are having trouble getting around the rookie rule. If I was HRC I would sign Pedrosa for a year and then go after Rossi.

[gm2]

http://www.motomatters.com/interview/2012/06/14/dani_pedrosa_on_future_contracts_and_pro.html

'Well, since Barcelona, when Honda contacted Jorge,...'

[duccarlos]

http://www.motomatters.com/interview/2012/06/14/dani_pedrosa_on_future_contracts_and_pro.html

'Well, since Barcelona, when Honda contacted Jorge,...'

Where else would he go? Ducati? No way. The day Repsol does not offer him a contract is the day he retires.