Lance

[koko64]

While I dont approve of drug cheating in sport, I won't judge harshly.

Probity in not for profit organizations is another matter. Spose the jury is still out on that one as well.

[kopfjäger]

Time and resources are better spent elsewhere, IMHO.

I don't  agree, if (IF) he has been lying about years of cheating the system, he should pay the price. Greg has said for many years that he was cheating.

[d3vi@nt]

I don't  agree, if (IF) he has been lying about years of cheating the system, he should pay the price. Greg has said for many years that he was cheating.

There's clearly no love between Greg and Lance. Lemond himself is far from suspect. I don't think I'd trust one over the other.

I used to relish watching "Le Tour". Now I could care less, as feel it's all a farce. Ah well, more time to ride 

[Randimus Maximus]

Also suspect is, once again, the timing of these allegations - right before TdF starts.

[KnightofNi]

Also suspect is, once again, is the timing of these allegations - right before TdF starts.

that's the part i love about it most...

[stateprez]

There's clearly no love between Greg and Lance. Lemond himself is far from suspect. I don't think I'd trust one over the other.

Q4T

The die hard Lancers will never give in to the circumstantial/speculative evidence, and everyone else with their heads out of the sand have a pretty good idea of what happened.  At this point, if there was a video of him sticking an EPO needle in his ass, I'm not sure I'd watch it.

[triangleforge]

Though I don't count myself as a die-hard Lance fan - I was very happy when he finally retired, and gave me back at least the possibility of an interesting Tour de France (can't say that's worked out all that great) - but I have long been in the camp that at least hoped the doping stories weren't true. These days, I'm having trouble caring as much as I once did.

Came across a recent article -

http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/explainer/2012/06/lance_armstrong_charged_why_is_there_so_much_doping_in_professional_cycling_.html

that does a pretty good job of laying out a couple of things. One, that there are things unique to pro cycling that push riders to doping  - the extreme endurance required, that it's a team endurance sport, that it's got a long and glorious tradition of behind-the-scenes pharmacology. And second, that any time you put a lot of money on the table in exchange for athletic performance, you have doping. The only question is whether or not you want to know about it and to try to put some limits on it. Name your sport, if there's an advantage to be found in a vial and if your testing regime isn't rigorous to the point of absurdity, then a substantial number of your athletes are juicing.

[stateprez]

Hincapie, Leipheimer, Vande Velde, Zabriskie, serving 6 month bans for confessions and flipping on Lancy.  Ruh Roh.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-hincapie-leipheimer-vande-velde-zabriskie-vaughters-give-evidence-against-armstrong

[Randimus Maximus]

Hincapie, Leipheimer, Vande Velde, Zabriskie, serving 6 month bans for confessions and flipping on Lancy.  Ruh Roh.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/report-hincapie-leipheimer-vande-velde-zabriskie-vaughters-give-evidence-against-armstrong

If the alleged bans are true (which all of the affected parties are denying), they are a crock. 

A six month ban that will start after the major events have been held this season? 

Something smells fishy.

[corey]

lol... all this over bicycles.

[muskrat]

If the alleged bans are true (which all of the affected parties are denying), they are a crock. 

A six month ban that will start after the major events have been held this season? 

Something smells fishy.

follow the money. 

[Stella]

lol... all this over bicycles.

"It's not about the bike"

and


it's not about the bike

[stateprez]

follow the money. 

Livestrong Lobbyist on USADA...."Cancer research" money hard at work.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303612804577531353567249064.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

[DRKWNG]

"It's not about the bike"

and


it's not about the bike

[kopfjäger]

Lance's second law suit is thrown out. USADA will continue the investigation.


http://edition.cnn.com/2012/08/20/sport/lance-armstrong-lawsuit/index.html