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Started by He Man, September 29, 2012, 06:08:47 PM

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He Man

Quote from: ducpainter on September 30, 2012, 04:05:29 AM
That's the problem...

you guys think everything is so cut and dry.

I can make the beast with two backs up your work by leaving out a washer.

You're not that smart. :-*

[Engineered to Fail...Petrowski]

(http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/to-forgive-design-henry-petroski/1110781930) ????

You are right. In civil engineering, 90% of the design is cookie cutter because codes dont require you to think much and everyone complains about cost (and then you wonder why everything ends up looking like a box!). Everyone else, well, that aint my problem! Cookie cutter thinking = high volume = $$. the unique think jobs stuff = no money. Would be great if you are in the middle, but most either fall on the extreme left or extreme right.

Seriously though, its school and i expect there to be an answer!

Quote from: Johnny OrganDonor on September 30, 2012, 11:30:28 AM
Don't know much about that......I'm not a very good engineer.

I can't even get a vanity plate right.


Hope your not trying to flip a car upside down just to get someone to read that!

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Quote from: He Man on September 30, 2012, 04:59:42 PM
(http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/to-forgive-design-henry-petroski/1110781930) ????

You are right. In civil engineering, 90% of the design is cookie cutter because codes dont require you to think much and everyone complains about cost (and then you wonder why everything ends up looking like a box!). Everyone else, well, that aint my problem! Cookie cutter thinking = high volume = $$. the unique think jobs stuff = no money. Would be great if you are in the middle, but most either fall on the extreme left or extreme right.

Seriously though, its school and i expect there to be an answer!





Actually I was referring to this one... To Engineer Is Human: The Role of Failure in Successful Design (1985), ISBN 978-0-679-73416-

All rocket science can be foiled by people...and you guys aren't smart enough to change that.

Architects make things look good...

the civil engineers decide it can't be done.

What's with the negativity? [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
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Books only have half of the answers in the back so that teachers have the ability to give students a chance to check some of their answers while not doctoring all of their work just to slide to an easy grade.  You do an odd problem, you can verify your knowledge of the material is correct by checking against the answers.  You do an even problem, and you have to apply that same knowledge without the safety net of the answer section in the back of the book.

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Quote from: ducpainter on September 30, 2012, 05:11:09 PM
Actually I was referring to this one... To Engineer Is Human: The Role of Failure in Successful Design (1985), ISBN 978-0-679-73416-

All rocket science can be foiled by people...and you guys aren't smart enough to change that.


Pointy end goes up is a hard concept sometimes.
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The whole concept of figuring shit out was challenging for a number of people in my cohort during my MBA. Knowing how to make and educated guess on numbers was something they just couldn't deal with. Sometimes you have to pick numbers based on the available info and be able to defend them.

And I thought you were going to med school.
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Speedbag

Quote from: ducpainter on September 30, 2012, 05:11:09 PM

All rocket science can be foiled by people...and you guys aren't smart enough to change that.


+1

As an engineer for nearly 20 years, I agree - there is no such thing as making something "foolproof".

"Fool-resistant" is the best that you can hope for.  ;)



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zooom

Quote from: Speedbag on October 02, 2012, 04:12:01 AM
+1

As an engineer for nearly 20 years, I agree - there is no such thing as making something "foolproof".

"Fool-resistant" is the best that you can hope for.  ;)



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wait...I thought there was...it is called death....and that is where we get the Darwin awards from.
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Quote from: zooom on October 02, 2012, 05:01:23 AM
wait...I thought there was...it is called death....and that is where we get the Darwin awards from.
We make bigger and better fools every day.

It's a never ending process.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”



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Quote from: He Man on September 29, 2012, 08:26:28 PM
hell if i know im right or not. You have 5 people with different answers and everyone arguing who is right or wrong. :P book doesnt tell you the answer and everyones sure they did it right and the professor wont ever actually solve a problem in front of you, fearing he will be made a fool of! :P



Probably your best school lesson right there. This will happen in real life, with no answer held somewhere and no one to pick one over the other. G'wan and work it out-use beer.
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Quote from: Dwead Piwate Woberts on October 02, 2012, 01:18:04 PM
Probably your best school lesson right there. This will happen in real life, with no answer held somewhere and no one to pick one over the other. G'wan and work it out-use beer.
the answer is that some idiot will take it upon themselves to figure it out while everyone else makes themselves scarce
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Quote from: Dwead Piwate Woberts on October 02, 2012, 01:18:04 PM
use beer.

I prefer beer over energy drinks. but apparently that;s not socially acceptable.
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Quote from: He Man on October 02, 2012, 03:14:42 PM
I prefer beer over energy drinks. but apparently that;s not socially acceptable.

Second most important lesson is how to hold your liquor.

Don't be that guy at company events.
If the state had not cut funding for the mental institutions, this project could never have happened.

zooom

Quote from: He Man on October 02, 2012, 03:14:42 PM
I prefer beer over energy drinks. but apparently that;s not socially acceptable.

I guess that would depend on the social circle/circumstance too now wouldn't it?
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Quote from: ducpainter on September 30, 2012, 05:11:09 PM
Actually I was referring to this one... To Engineer Is Human: The Role of Failure in Successful Design (1985), ISBN 978-0-679-73416-

That book was required reading in my "Engineering Ethics Class". And by required reading i mean read a couple pages after I finshed my lab, math and electronics hw.....

Quote from: He Man on October 02, 2012, 03:14:42 PM
I prefer beer over energy drinks. but apparently that;s not socially acceptable.

A study beer is a real thing!

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Quote from: ducpainter on October 02, 2012, 06:30:58 AM
We make bigger and better fools every day.

It's a never ending process.


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