MotoGP Rd 6: Gran Premi Aperol de Catalunya (Habrá spoilers)

[Spidey]

How in the make the beast with two backs did Marquez not crash? 

We've seen it a million times.  He had already turned in, and was pushing too hard.  His front end folded, he immediately hit the deck and went sliding across the tarmac, having tossed away 16 points.  'cept he didn't.  The front end folded and he stayed on the bike.  HOW THE make the beast with two backs DID HE DO THAT? 

Sure, Lorenzo did the same thing going into T11 at Laguna a coupla years ago, but he was up and down went it folded.  Marquez had already turned in.  Waddya thing, is it 'roids? 

[Jester]

At various points Marquez was on the same pace as Lorenzo. Marquez needs to do a better job at passing Pedrosa in the first corner.

Dani was on Lorenzo's pace 3/4 of the race.  I don't see where Marquez was going even if he did manage to pass Dani and not crash in the process.

Marquez reminds me of Lorenzo during his first year, only a bit more dangerous to himself when trying to pass people.  The kid is making a habit of almost running into the back of the person in front of him, then saving a near crash, then trying it all over again.  He's either going to bin the bike or bin two bikes at some point soon.  He flat broadsided Lorenzo at Jerez after almost running into the back of him twice, and had no problem attempting to do the same thing to Pedro this week.  Marquez is exciting, but he seriously lacks refinement in his maneuvers.  His previous years looked the same as well and I don't buy the whole "I'm learning" bs.  He's a racer and has shown the same habits over time.  Its not just a Motogp problem.

[Raux]

Once marqyez learns the art of the start pedrisa is done as hondas number one
marquez is the only rider who is on par with lorenzo on skill
tactics wise he's being a team player
ask yourself why is he almost running into pedrosa.  because pedrosa is a roadblock and slower
sure pedrosa is consistent. but when stoner was win or bin riding everyone said how exciting. now that there's a rider with that passipn again everyone is saying he is wrong. bs
pedrosa wants this championship buts he fighting the wrong person. lorenzo needs challenging only then will he maybe make a mistake or at least push his tires so hard pedrosa has a chance to ctach him for second. nd if marquez is so out of controlaybe he will lose it enough for pedrosa to win. either way honda wins. but this way that pedrosa is blocking will cause honda to lose both rider and constructor

[Triple J]

Geez, that was a boring race.  B-O-R-I-N-G

I don't think MM had any more pace than Pedrobot. If he did he would have passed him. The one time he tried he almost binned it...unbelievable that he didn't. 

If MM does have more pace and can't pass him then he needs to learn how to get it done. This is MotoGP not F1. Pedrobot should block him if he's ahead...it's a f'ing race!!

[MadDuck]

How in the make the beast with two backs did Marquez not crash? 

We've seen it a million times.  He had already turned in, and was pushing too hard.  His front end folded, he immediately hit the deck and went sliding across the tarmac, having tossed away 16 points.  'cept he didn't.  The front end folded and he stayed on the bike.  HOW THE make the beast with two backs DID HE DO THAT? 

Sure, Lorenzo did the same thing going into T11 at Laguna a coupla years ago, but he was up and down went it folded.  Marquez had already turned in.  Waddya thing, is it 'roids? 

Big time luck! And maybe an angel riding pillion.      Yep. He should've been launched down the track. Then to not only recover but get right back on Pedrosa's tail.  Woo Hoo!

[Spidey]

Man, other than Bautista nearly killing someone or another everyone race and MM trying to lodge his motorcycle into someone's butt, it's getting hard to find the same thing interesting each week.  Look Lorenzo is in the lead.  Look, Lorenzo is hammering away lap after lap.  Look, Lorenzo is opening up a gap.  Look, they won't catch him.  Look, he won.  Look, he's put his winkle on a grandmother's shoulder.  Substitute the other Spaniard for Lorenzo and it's the same story.  Yawn.

It was amazing how many people threw down their bikes.  It looked like a wet weather race.   

[ZLTFUL]

It was a wet race Spidey...didn't you see all of Raux's tears at DP holding up MM?!?    

[Triple J]

It was a wet race Spidey...didn't you see all of Raux's tears at DP holding up MM?!?    

[Raux]

hopefully Marquez decides to stop playing team player and starts to push Pedrosa out of the way, it's all racing right 

[duccarlos]

The problem with MM is that he plays the good team player up to the last laps when he's frustrated. You can see him tip toeing looking for enough room to pass, but he's too afraid of showing a wheel to force a mistake on The Turd. He needs to make these moves early. Lorenzo doesn't like to trade paint, but neither does Pedrosa. If you let MM pass, he will at least make Jorghey a bit nervous that MM will T-bone him. Once that happens, Turdy will cruise to first with Jorge crying like my kids on a long road trip "he's touching me!"

[Raux]

The problem with MM is that he plays the good team player up to the last laps when he's frustrated. You can see him tip toeing looking for enough room to pass, but he's too afraid of showing a wheel to force a mistake on The Turd. He needs to make these moves early. Lorenzo doesn't like to trade paint, but neither does Pedrosa. If you let MM pass, he will at least make Jorghey a bit nervous that MM will T-bone him. Once that happens, Turdy will cruise to first with Jorge crying like my kids on a long road trip "he's touching me!"

+!

[Triple J]

I think you two are crazy. MM was doing all he could in the race. He's being a team player in that he doesn't want to risk taking out Pedrobot with a stupid move...but if he could have made a clean(ish) pass on him he would have. He admitted in an interview that he was riding at the very edge of his ability the entire race, and almost crashed out several times trying to stay with him. He's shown before that when he can pass, he does.

It IS possible to be just as fast as someone, but not fast enough to pass them. Just sayin'

JLo meanwhile ran a flat perfect race. No one was going to catch him.

[Spidey]

What in the world are y'all talking about?!?  MM isn't playing good teammate.  He's just trying to hang with George and Douchey Smurf for as long as possible to figure out  (a) if he can hang with them at all and for how long, (b) if he can pass them and (c) if he can do (a) and/or (b) without taking out half the field.  As TripleJ said, MM himself admits that he was/is pretty much at 100% just to stay with them, which pays off because he learns from them.  Sure, at the end of the race, MM might have been a wee bit faster, but he couldn't get around Douchey because Douchey was riding really defensively (and well).  MM just was fast enough to pass.  But Douchey wasn't holding him up the entire race by any means.  MM wasn't going to catch George even if he got around Douchey.  And he wasn't going to get around Douchey any earlier than the last couple of laps because he was barely hanging on.  

[Speeddog]

What Spidey said.

[derby]

Marquez best watch it with moves like that. Taking out both factory Hondas with points as close as they are would not bode well for him.

Hmmmm... and why does this sound very familiar? Shades of '06 and 'bot vs The Kid.

...and pedrosa is still with the team.