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Started by ZLTFUL, June 14, 2013, 08:18:05 AM

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Speeddog

I imagine that if they went 20 liters / 5 engines (thus, an 'MSMA' entry) they would have the same tire selection as the 'factory' bikes do now.

IIRC, the factory bikes get, for example, 'hard' and 'medium', and the CRT's get 'medium' and 'soft'.
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ducpainter

Quote from: Speeddog on June 18, 2013, 01:08:29 PM
I imagine that if they went 20 liters / 5 engines (thus, an 'MSMA' entry) they would have the same tire selection as the 'factory' bikes do now.

IIRC, the factory bikes get, for example, 'hard' and 'medium', and the CRT's get 'medium' and 'soft'.
In that case Aprilia better find 30 hp.

Or, suck it up and use the Marelli ecu.

They couldn't run all season with 5 of those grenades anyway.
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Quote from: ducpainter on June 18, 2013, 01:15:13 PM
In that case Aprilia better find 30 hp.

Or, suck it up and use the Marelli ecu.

They couldn't run all season with 5 of those grenades anyway.

I keep hearing that they go through like an engine a weekend in WSBK.
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ducpainter

Quote from: duccarlos on June 18, 2013, 03:13:06 PM
I keep hearing that they go through like an engine a weekend in WSBK.
I hear that number also.

Laverty DNF'ed twice this year due to grenading his motor.
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Speeddog

Quote from: duccarlos on June 18, 2013, 03:13:06 PM
I keep hearing that they go through like an engine a weekend in WSBK.

Rumor was they used 28 engines for Max Biaggi when he won WSBK.

I'm pretty sure that's something like 6 engines rebuilt 4 times and 4 engines blown up and scrapped.

Not 28 engines blown up.
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ducpainter

Quote from: Speeddog on June 18, 2013, 03:56:57 PM
Rumor was they used 28 engines for Max Biaggi when he won WSBK.

I'm pretty sure that's something like 6 engines rebuilt 4 times and 4 engines blown up and scrapped.

Not 28 engines blown up.
Not sure how you are pretty sure... :P

fact remains the Aprilia engine can't make the power required for the GP rules and engine allocations.
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Speeddog

Well, I've got no inside information.

2010 was 26 races.

Hypothetically, if Max blew up 28 engines in one season, I'd guess about half of those would occur on track, the other half diagnosed via data or garage inspection.

And half of those on track would be in a race.

Tough to win a championship with 7 mechanical DNF's.

That year he always finished in the points, and had no DNF's, and won the title.
Haslam always was in teh points when he finished, but had 2 DNF's, and came second.

Granted, Aprilia can't make the required HP within MotoGP engine allocations.
But it's a production based engine.
I don't think Jonathan and Leon are all that impressed with Honda's production based engine activity in WSBK.
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duccarlos

Honda puts zero effort towards WSBK. Anyway, I think the ART project will die off before turning into a full blown MotoGP project.
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ducpainter

Quote from: Speeddog on June 18, 2013, 04:22:15 PM
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I don't think Jonathan and Leon are all that impressed with Honda's production based engine activity in WSBK.
The pig is how many years old?

Rumor has it there will be new technology next year.
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Speeddog

I'd be surprised *not* to see a barely-enough-made-to-homologate RVF1000R or the like for 2014 to run in WSBK.

I suspect it'd start the season with restrictor plates with holes the size of quarters.
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