No Such Agency is connecting the dots

[MendoDave]

If you come to the attention of the NSA they can put your meta data to use to see who you collaborate with.

http://techchronic.blogspot.in/2013/07/have-gmail-account-see-what-nsa-knows.html

[Skybarney]

So what is your screen name at this website?  Abovetopsecret.com

[MendoDave]

Let me Guess the link takes yo to my Screen name? My hope was that anyone with a Gmail account should be able to log in. If you don't have a gmail account then your out of luck. That doesn't mean the NSA isn't still looking.

[lethe]

the gmail account I have is just about off the grid 

[Monsterlover]

I'm trying it now but the site is slammed.

[duc_fan]

I've been in the aerospace/defense industry for a while, and know a little about the kind of digging they do for background checks and clearances.  Understanding that, and having an understanding of the traceability of digital information, I have been operating under the assumption that they can read any/all my email and record/track/monitor my phone(s) for some time now.  I've pretty much given up on the idea that one can live "off the grid"... because they'll see you drop off, and can assign any number of other resources to monitor you if they see fit.

Also... did no one read the Wired article from last year about the data center they're building in Utah?
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/

This isn't conspiracy theory crap.  We're talking about existing technological capabilities and their blatant abuse by intelligence agencies.  They (gov't agencies the world over) do whatever they please, wherever they want, whenever they see fit.  The question that needs to be publicly debated is: do we allow this to continue?

[MendoDave]

I've been in the aerospace/defense industry for a while, and know a little about the kind of digging they do for background checks and clearances.  Understanding that, and having an understanding of the traceability of digital information, I have been operating under the assumption that they can read any/all my email and record/track/monitor my phone(s) for some time now.  I've pretty much given up on the idea that one can live "off the grid"... because they'll see you drop off, and can assign any number of other resources to monitor you if they see fit.

Also... did no one read the Wired article from last year about the data center they're building in Utah?
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/

This isn't conspiracy theory crap.  We're talking about existing technological capabilities and their blatant abuse by intelligence agencies.  They (gov't agencies the world over) do whatever they please, wherever they want, whenever they see fit.  The question that needs to be publicly debated is: do we allow this to continue?

Do we have a choice?

[hbliam]

I've been in the aerospace/defense industry for a while, and know a little about the kind of digging they do for background checks and clearances.  Understanding that, and having an understanding of the traceability of digital information, I have been operating under the assumption that they can read any/all my email and record/track/monitor my phone(s) for some time now.  I've pretty much given up on the idea that one can live "off the grid"... because they'll see you drop off, and can assign any number of other resources to monitor you if they see fit.

Also... did no one read the Wired article from last year about the data center they're building in Utah?
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/

This isn't conspiracy theory crap.  We're talking about existing technological capabilities and their blatant abuse by intelligence agencies.  They (gov't agencies the world over) do whatever they please, wherever they want, whenever they see fit.  The question that needs to be publicly debated is: do we allow this to continue?

When did the DMF start allowing political threads?

[LowThudd]

As I see it, this is informational awareness more than political bipartisanism. Maybe we can discuss the technology without discussing the politics.

[zooom]

   The question that needs to be publicly debated is: do we allow this to continue?

Do we have a choice?

as long as you pay taxes....no...no you don't have a choice and there isn't a durned thing you can do about it otherwise....

[MendoDave]

I was not aware of any political discussion taking place. Don't get my thread locked.

[WarrenJ]

The corporations that make their living from the billions of dollars of Government contracts need a constant supply of enemies.  Who better than ourselves?  Like Walt Kelly said, "We have met the enemy and he is us"

[hbliam]

I was not aware of any political discussion taking place. Don't get my thread locked.

This isn't conspiracy theory crap.  We're talking about existing technological capabilities and their blatant abuse by intelligence agencies.  They (gov't agencies the world over) do whatever they please, wherever they want, whenever they see fit.  The question that needs to be publicly debated is: do we allow this to continue?

I don't want your thread to be locked but if I'm gonna constantly get called out for something that isn't technically political (the legal definition of a speed trap for instance) how the hell is the above not political?

[hbliam]

As I see it, this is informational awareness more than political bipartisanism. Maybe we can discuss the technology without discussing the politics.

That what I thought the thread was about prior to the post I quoted.

I agree, discuss the tech not taxes, or "the government", etc.

[ducpainter]

That what I thought the thread was about prior to the post I quoted.

I agree, discuss the tech not taxes, or "the government", etc.

You were correct in your earlier post.