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Range Rover Runs Over Bikers in NYC, 1 dead

Started by Plumbers Crack, September 30, 2013, 03:55:26 AM

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sbrguy

maybe if you have a kid and wife in your car you would maybe drive a bit more safer and if you see bikers like this then take actions such as let them through and such.  but no sounds like the guy had to act all tough and cool and act like "i'm not going to let anyone stop me from going where i want, i'll teach him a lesson".

if he was that afraid he should have called the cops immediately.

sorry but we all know that all the time the car driver will get away with it because in court nobody likes a motorcycle no matter how right the motorcycle was.

even in the stories in the news on this one the first thing the police say is "it was an accident".  how do they know that unless they are done with the investigation, which they then say in the article they are still looking into it.  they already start with the premise that the suv driver was not at fault by saying "accident" which gives people the idea that the driver had no fault at all, they should have said there was "a crash between two vehicles".

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Rudemouthsky

I'll admit I haven't checked the link but I'm amazed at how many people here are cheering on a yuppie douche running over bikers in a Land Rover.  At the very least *everyone* involved is an ***hole

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ab

cager needs to learn a bit of patience and let a whole slew of bikers pass through. 
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ab

Quote from: kopfjäger on September 30, 2013, 08:00:43 PM
Not buying it

If a smiley emoticon doesn't convey sarcasm, then I guess I am doomed.
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ducpainter

Quote from: Buck Naked on September 30, 2013, 08:08:56 PM
I'll admit I haven't checked the link but I'm amazed at how many people here are cheering on a yuppie douche running over bikers in a Land Rover.  At the very least *everyone* involved is an ***hole


Put yourself in a car with your wife and family with a hundred assholes breaking the windows and looking to beat the shit out of you.

What next?
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kopfjäger

Quote from: Buck Naked on September 30, 2013, 08:08:56 PM
I'll admit I haven't checked the link but I'm amazed at how many people here are cheering on a yuppie douche running over bikers in a Land Rover.  At the very least *everyone* involved is an ***hole



The level of shit you're talking is epic.
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Rudemouthsky

What started all this to begin with though? the video doesn't make that clear. And gunning your SUV through a crowd is pretty damn arbitrary. That could be someones wife or kid getting run over who had nothing to do with it.
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ducpainter

Quote from: Buck Naked on September 30, 2013, 08:21:15 PM
What started all this to begin with though? the video doesn't make that clear. <snip>
Exactly.

Many are calling the RR driver a yuppie douchebag based on  ??? The fact he's driving a RR?

The video, as stated before, has been edited.

I don't know what precipitated this, but the driver of the car didn't run anyone over until he was forcibly stopped and approached by the guys wielding helmets.

Again, I ask if you are in your car with your wife and kid and are approached by an angry mob...what do you do to protect them?
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a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”



kopfjäger

Quote from: ducpainter on September 30, 2013, 08:29:15 PM
Exactly.

Many are calling the RR driver a yuppie douchebag based on  ??? The fact he's driving a RR?

The video, as stated before, has been edited.

I don't know what precipitated this, but the driver of the car didn't run anyone over until he was forcibly stopped and approached by the guys wielding helmets.

Again, I ask if you are in your car with your wife and kid and are approached by an angry mob...what do you do to protect them?

I'd run over more than their bikes.
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Rudemouthsky

Quote from: ducpainter on September 30, 2013, 08:29:15 PM
Exactly.

Many are calling the RR driver a yuppie douchebag based on  ??? The fact he's driving a RR?


Not entirely fair...but neither is judging an entire crew based on what kind of gear they are or aren't wearing. We all have our prejudices, born of past experiences.

Quote from: ducpainter on September 30, 2013, 08:29:15 PM

I don't know what precipitated this, but the driver of the car didn't run anyone over until he was forcibly stopped and approached by the guys wielding helmets.

It's possible he'd already been driving aggressively and clipped/injured a biker before hand.

Quote from: ducpainter on September 30, 2013, 08:29:15 PM


Again, I ask if you are in your car with your wife and kid and are approached by an angry mob...what do you do to protect them?

One thing I *wouldn't* do is go all cowboy on a huge crew of people I had a beef with if my family was going to catch collateral damage from it.

Since nobody knows what precipitated all this, all we have are assumptions. I had to be the devils advocate though because of how many people were automatically casting their lot with the driver. Surprising because cagers are *always* trying to kill us.

But If the bikers were the aggressors, then I don't blame the driver one bit.
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Whole lot of ill informed opinion and massive conclusion jumping based on assumption... gleaned from 6 minutes of edited youtube footage.

Nobody here knows anything.





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kopfjäger

Quote from: ungeheuer on September 30, 2013, 08:49:33 PM
Whole lot of ill informed opinion and massive conclusion jumping based on assumption... gleaned from 6 minutes of edited youtube footage.

Nobody here knows anything.







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Howie

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All we know at this time is what we see in the video:
  Motorcyclist brake checks Range Rover  and gets rear ended.  Clearly a stupid maneuver.
  Range Rover hits some bikes, most likely trying to escape the mob that was terrorizing them.
  Motorcycle mob chases down driver and attacks.

What we do not know:
  What the Range Rover driver might have done to aggravate the mob
        Beep his horn?
        Cut off a bike?
        Unsafe lane change
        Nothing
         Hit one or more of them
        Other

I'm sure very few of us have never made a mistake while riding or driving that pissed someone off.  Brake checking someone is wrong and, on a bike, just plain stupid.  I can't be sure, but it seems like the mob was more intent on chasing down the Range Rover than attending to their friends.  They also had the choice of calling the police.

I have seen mobs like this running around the city.  In typical squid mob style they try to prove to each other how bad-ass they are, often totally blocking all lanes so one or more of them can stunt, lane splitting on both sides of the car at the same time and other assorted stupidity.  From what I hear there is now an even bigger crack down on motorcycles in the city.  Do they get the squids?  NO.  They get you and me.