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Range Rover Runs Over Bikers in NYC, 1 dead

Started by Plumbers Crack, September 30, 2013, 03:55:26 AM

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I'll just stick with my every human in that video most likely sucks assumption.



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lethe

Quote from: ungeheuer on September 30, 2013, 08:49:33 PM
Whole lot of ill informed opinion and massive conclusion jumping based on assumption... gleaned from 6 minutes of edited youtube footage.

Nobody here knows anything.






I do, those swarms of irresponsible, lawless non bikers riding non plated with a some stolen bikes in the mix are a scourge. I know of them, I've known some of them, they all deserve fire.
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Quote from: lethe on October 01, 2013, 03:46:51 AM
I do, those swarms of irresponsible, lawless non bikers riding non plated with a some stolen bikes in the mix are a scourge. I know of them, I've known some of them, they all deserve fire.
Yeah, you're probably right.  I hate swarming packs of attitude.

Execute the mothermake the beast with two backsers.
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Quote from: ungeheuer on October 01, 2013, 04:22:50 AM
Yeah, you're probably right.  I hate swarming packs of attitude.

Execute the mothermake the beast with two backsers.

they're far worse than mere attitude
Realistically it really might just be a small handful that are the real trouble but the pack follows their lead and those few are real bad as in get in your face and cut you for looking at them funny bad if not worse.
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Quote from: lethe on October 01, 2013, 04:34:56 AM
they're far worse than mere attitude
Realistically it really might just be a small handful that are the real trouble but the pack follows their lead and those few are real bad as in get in your face and cut you for looking at them funny bad if not worse.
I see.  So make an example of the few real bad mothermake the beast with two backsers and execute each of them every day for a fortnight.
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lethe

Quote from: ungeheuer on October 01, 2013, 04:52:41 AM
I see.  So make an example of the few real bad mothermake the beast with two backsers and execute each of them every day for a fortnight.

don't make me come there and be a bother to you

My biggest trigger is just selfish people and I hate humankind in general.
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Good.  We reached a verdict.

The Range Rover driver can be dealt with in a separate hearing by a panel of his poultry keeping peers.

But for bringing the activity which we all enjoy into disrepute - having considered all the evidence before us - we, the meritorious motorcyclists of the DMF, sentence these mothermake the beast with two backsers to be taken henceforth from this place to be seriously, completely and frequently executed.

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Skybarney

In this world we learn to make assumptions.  Sometimes those assumptions are based on our own experiences sometimes they are based on other peoples assumptions.

I am gonna have to assume that the man in the Rover is probably a D-bag.  Easy assumption to make.  I am also gonna assume that like most d-bags in Rovers he would be too scared to start problems with a large gang of thugs, especially with his family in the car.

Therefore I have to assume that whatever the guy in the Rover did was likely not bad enough to warrant a gang style attack.  I am making that assumption based on the article saying that there were no significant injuries to any riders.

Had that been me and had I a firearm in the car I would have shot the guy that smashed the drivers window in the face.....  Hitting someone with a helmet can kill them and IMO killing the guy that slammed his helmet through the window would have been defensible in court.

It's why I don't drive with a firearm.......  I got jumped by a gang once and had I a weapon I would have killed people.  I got away without injury (ran a gangster over with my truck btw) so I learned that running is always better than fighting.  However that guy in the Rover was trapped by traffic and tremendously outnumbered.  Time to come out shooting or time time to put the Rover in reverse and run over more people.  I think the Rover driver showed tremendous restraint.

Aren't assumptions fun  ;D

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Quote from: lethe on October 01, 2013, 03:46:51 AM
I do, those swarms of irresponsible, lawless non bikers riding non plated with a some stolen bikes in the mix are a scourge. I know of them, I've known some of them, they all deserve fire.

Unfortunately, this is a very accurate description. 

That family was at the wrong place at the wrong time.


ducatiz

I lived in NYC for almost 20 years and escaped just five years ago.

I saw plenty of irresponsible, dangerous driving -- people who though they owned the road, or that they had a right not to be passed or cut off.

If that Range Rover driver hit someone, then he should have immediately called the police and dealt with it.  "Swarms" or no swarms.

By driving off, he created the reasonable assumption that he did it on purpose or that he didn't care.

From what I could see, he got hemmed in by a bunch of bikers AFTER he had run over someone and then drove off.

Hit and run deaths are very common in NYC.  Just google "Nyc hit and run death."

The bikers were wrong for swarming the streets and challenging people (which is what looks like led to the original hit) but the driver was wrong for not just pulling over and letting them pass.  What's the loss?  Ego?  You had your wife and 2 year old child in the car -- get them out of danger!  No one has a right to the road.  Let the police deal with it.


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Quote from: ducatiz on October 01, 2013, 07:24:51 AM
...the driver was wrong for not just pulling over and letting them pass...

Bwahahahahahahhahahahahahaha you think he had a choice with the swarm?  My guess is that they passed him from both sides and he couldn't pull over.

Further, to the gentlemen who say, "Well, I didn't watch the video, but that RR guy was an asshole": watch and please re-submit your comments.
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Quote from: Lucumon on October 01, 2013, 07:36:45 AM
Bwahahahahahahhahahahahahaha you think he had a choice with the swarm?  My guess is that they passed him from both sides and he couldn't pull over.

Further, to the gentlemen who say, "Well, I didn't watch the video, but that RR guy was an asshole": watch and please re-submit your comments.

He had a choice when the biker was playing chicken with him before he actually hit anyone.

The NY post showed video of the biker that was originally hit doing a stoppie in front of the RR.

I would have pulled over before hitting someone. 
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Quote from: Buck Naked on September 30, 2013, 09:07:30 PM
I'll just stick with my every human in that video most likely sucks assumption.



^ this.    [laugh]

And:  put the moto hooligans in front of a punkin' chunkin' firing squad and be done with it.  



Playing devil's advocate:  I'm curious why it's an easy assumption that the vehicle driver is a d-bag?  

Quote from: Skybarney on October 01, 2013, 06:29:04 AM
I am gonna have to assume that the man in the Rover is probably a D-bag.  Easy assumption to make.
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