Scrambler Spied

[MendoDave]

Iv'e been watching. I think its a nostalgia thing. I always saw "the Scrambler" as a Pre Dirt bike. Street bikes that were converted for Moto Cross, Hare Scrambles, or Enduro Use, before manufacturers began making true purpose built dirt/race bikes.

In other words a half baked idea. Now these blasts from the past/hipster bikes are going to fill in Ducati's entry level line up the way the monster did, and it  probably makes sense as a product line. They look like easy to ride no fuss all around machines that might even be fun.

I remember owning a DT 100 as one of my first bikes which, when I look back on it is very similar to these things. It was slightly smaller and with an engine displacement of only 100cc it was certainly down on power in comparison but it also had many things in common. The layout was much the same and it could be ridden on the street as well as off road, riding position was the same and it was simple. I learned a lot on that bike but I probably wouldnt buy another one. Not for myself anyway.

I havent been super excited about these but I see where they are going with it. The Ducati video from their web site pretty well sums it up. This is meant to be a first or second bike for the most part, aimed at a newer rider.

Basic Motorcycling...

[koko64]

There were 3 yellow Scramblers at Ducati Newport Beach today. 
No words. 

Just very disappointed. 

Come on do tell us. What stood out, good and bad.

[IZ]

Come on do tell us. What stood out, good and bad.

I just saw a Buell Blast.  I guess I have to wait to see the drab green model or some serious mods.





^^And no..that's not me.   

[Ducatamount]

It's terrible. 

[Triple J]

^^And no..that's not me.   

[koko64]

I get the Buell Blast comment. Difference is this will work for Ducati.

I'm sure they'll sell well. It's a fun image with the young'uns. I guess someone has to court new riders and not just old guys. Guys like me are the past (unless I get a MTS1200 or M1200). It sure looks like its taking over from the air cooled Monster as has been mentioned and the Monster turned into a cruiser.

[Kev M]

I get the Buell Blast comment. Difference is this will work for Ducati.

I completely don't get the Buell blast comment.

The Blast had the cheapest components and a half a Sportster motor.

The Scrambler has what would be considered by most manufacturers to be quality components (not top tier, but quality parts in the brakes and suspension area) and great 796 motor which, even detuned from the Monster for torque still represents higher output from an 800cc motor than many bikes in this segment (like the Bonnie Scrambler).

That's about as removed from the Blast in concept and execution as you can get on an "entry level bike" from a premium brand like Ducati.

[twolanefun]

I get the Buell Blast comment. Difference is this will work for Ducati.

I'm sure they'll sell well. It's a fun image with the young'uns. I guess someone has to court new riders and not just old guys. Guys like me are the past (unless I get a MTS1200 or M1200). It sure looks like its taking over from the air cooled Monster as has been mentioned and the Monster turned into a cruiser.

I to do not get the Buell comment. I also don't get the comment about the M1200 being turned into a Cruiser. As someone who has some Cruiser creds, not to mention owning a Diavel, I can assure you there is nothing about a M1200 that says cruiser not even it's longish wheelbase. - Gene

BTW the 1M Ducati produced is a M1200S!

[IZ]

Looked good on the website but cheap in person. 
Just have to mod the hell out if it but I suppose that's the idea. 

[koko64]

On first impression the Scrambler says Blast. Put them side by side and Ducatisti will breathe a sigh of relief. I can see why that comment was made. The execution of course is different and that is why it will succeed whereas the Blast failed. Should sell like hot cakes. Ducati should be applauded for chasing new riders, all hipster jokes aside. I like the Scrambler and as a kid would have bought one and had fun.

The M1200  definately has strong cruiser styling, good thing it wont handle like most cruisers. Admit it, shades of BMW's previous attempt, but of course much better.
I have owned three Harleys and I'm glad Ducati have such good performance to go with the style.

Diavel is a true power cruiser with sports bike ambitions. I read a comparo between it and the V-Max. Wow. It has a styling that exudes power. For my taste it has much better unique  style. I like its brave styling. A power cruiser Ducati's way.

[Kev M]

On first impression the Scrambler says Blast. Put them side by side and Ducatisti will breathe a sigh of relief. I can see why that comment was made. The execution of course is different and that is why it will succeed whereas the Blast failed. Should sell like hot cakes. Ducati should be applauded for chasing new riders, all hipster jokes aside. I like the Scrambler and as a kid would have bought one and had fun.

The M1200  definately has strong cruiser styling, good thing it wont handle like most cruisers. Admit it, shades of BMW's previous attempt, but of course much better.
I have owned three Harleys and I'm glad Ducati have such good performance to go with the style.

Diavel is a true power cruiser with sports bike ambitions. I read a comparo between it and the V-Max. Wow. It has a styling that exudes power. For my taste it has much better unique  style. I like its brave styling. A power cruiser Ducati's way.

Koko,

This IS NOT meant as an insult. But I get the impression you look at these things from a very narrow perspective of a sportbike owner.

The Scrambler is to the Blast as much as it is to the Rebel 250, they just happen to be "entry" level to the brand. But having spent some time on a friend's Blast, I think the comparison ends there (maybe I'll change my mind when I finally ride a Scrambler, but I highly doubt it).

Likewise, the M1200 Monster is styled about as much like a "cruiser" as a Griso, meaning there's ALMOST nothing in common. You mention BMWs previous attempt? At a CRUISER? YOU mean the R1200C? You think there's something remotely similar in styling between an R1200C and M1200?



The Diavel? I MIGHT reluctantly call a "power cruiser" as that's sorta a unique niche that is hard to define. But even the Diavel doesn't have the ergos of a "cruiser" - ala V-Rod (which is one of the few bikes I guess I'd call a "power cruiser").

But you have to understand as a guy who generally prefers classic standard motorcycles, I don't even consider a Harley FLH to be a cruiser UNLESS it's lowered and futzed with. A Road King is generally a TOURING bike to me, a Sportster (without forward controls) is a classic/naked standard, for something to be called a cruiser to me the function has to be stripped, it's gotta have forward controls, a good bit of rake, and maybe lousy bars too, like apes. Basically, before I call something a "Cruiser" it's gotta SUCK...

[twolanefun]

The M1200  definately has strong cruiser styling,

Diavel is a true power cruiser with sports bike ambitions. I read a comparo between it and the V-Max.

I have no idea what you think a Cruiser is but my Monster or the M1200S have nothing in common with the cruisers in my garage. Not even the L-twin motor.

As for the Comparo with Vmax, I think the Diavel has had more comparison by the motorcycle press than any other bike, they still cannot figure out what it is. I know what it is - It is an Old Man's Superbike. Maybe a Gentleman's Superbike would be a good tag for it

- Gene

[twolanefun]

Koko,

The Diavel? I MIGHT reluctantly call a "power cruiser" as that's sorta a unique niche that is hard to define. But even the Diavel doesn't have the ergos of a "cruiser" - ala V-Rod (which is one of the few bikes I guess I'd call a "power cruiser").

Not sure I agree with you, the ergos on the Diavel are much better than the V-Rod, I've done multiple 450+ miles days on the Diavel, the V-rod sucks after about 250 for unless you have ape arms, riding all day in that C position is just too painful. And of course you better performance on the Diavel, brakes, suspension, power. - Gene

[Kev M]

Not sure I agree with you, the ergos on the Diavel are much better than the V-Rod, I've done multiple 450+ miles days on the Diavel, the V-rod sucks after about 250 for unless you have ape arms, riding all day in that C position is just too painful. And of course you better performance on the Diavel, brakes, suspension, power. - Gene

HA ha, then you DO AGREE with me, you just misread me.

I'm saying the ergos of a "Cruiser" SUCK by definition. That a V-rod is way more "cruiserish" due to the peg/control position than the Diavel. That's why I'm reluctant still to use the term "cruiser" with the Diavel, though I'm willing...

[Rudemouthsky]

Why people care so much about whether or not another person on the webz agrees with their taste in aesthetics is beyond me. Every single time a Harley or one of the contemporary Ducs gets criticized it's the same people. All of these opinions are exactly that, and about as subjective as possible. The Buell > Scrambler and M1200 > Cruiser comparisons can be considered both valid and not.



Fer fuqs sake I'm pouring 5 digits into one of the least rare/valuable Ducati's in existence...thank Lucifer I give 2 shits about anyone's taste in bikes or investment practicality beyond my own or I'd be screwed.