Dealer selling new 1100 w/ replaced parts?

[showerfan]

I want to start by saying I cannot vouch for the validity of this claim, but it was made on the inferior board and I wanted to get your take on it. Would a dealer do this? Would it be legal? Would it concern you?

So karlh over there says Bob Weaver Motorsports in Western New York had an 1100 20th anniversary edition on the showroom floor for sale. He then had a customer bring in an 1100 evo that needed repairs, but because of the Italian vacation couldn't get the parts from Ducati fast enough. So the dealer wheels the bike from the showroom floor into the garage and uses it as a donor for the customer bike.

The concern is that the dealer, when he finally got the parts from italy, put the 1100 anniversary edition back together and will now sell it as a new bike.

Is that possible? Is it wrong? I don't think I'd want that bike.

[Curmudgeon]

It's possible and totally legal so long as it was no more than a few components. As to "wrong", depends on the dealer's competence I'd imagine and your take on that. He DID after all, look after his customer.

If it were MY dealer, I'd be OK with it. Maybe "better" than new. He'd also stand behind it 200%. Run of the mill dealer? Not so much. YMMV.

[danaid]

  I was wanting to buy a new 07 s4rs from a dealership. This was the last one they had and it had paint chips, scratches on the rear sets and side panels from being pushed around the sales floor. I mentioned to the sales person that I wanted a deep discount for the damage and he said if I wanted to take it home today he would switch out the parts from another bike so I could take it home.

  I believe until the bike is registered, it is "new" would be my best guess.

[showerfan]

Well did you get it? Is the S4rs the greatest monster ever made??!

[danaid]

Well did you get it? Is the S4rs the greatest monster ever made??!

No  .   I regret not getting one because I want one now! I could not decide between buying the s4rs and s4r titanium that was left over.  I returned a couple weeks later and both bikes were gone!   

[the_Journeyman]

Interesting.  My local dealer had a 750 Sport (this was back in 2002) that started life as a Dark.  The mechanic assembled it and took in on a shakedown ride and dropped it.  We're talking a parking lot type drop when you rash the plastics a bit, bend the clutch etc.  Pretty minor drop.  However, the owner of the shop was telling me that since it had been damaged and had to be repaired he had to sell it as used.  It was a great price (should have bought it but didn't) something like nearly $2K less than MSRP for a new one.

I don't know if that was a NC law driven thing or if the owner just had a moral issue with selling a repaired bike as new.  It's a bit different from the OP's situation as the showroom bike wasn't damaged though.

A to the dealer for taking care of the customer and not making them way forever because of the holiday though.  I would trust my local dealer to do the same thing, the bike would be better than new if they swapped parts around like that.  Most likely in a case like that, it would go back to the showroom with some bling but still be at MSRP so a buyer would get quite a deal.

[brad black]

the dealer in question will now no doubt have a whole load of people turning up asking about a cheap new m1100, telling him he's an arsehole for selling a used bike as new, but declaring they're willing to let him off if he gives them a big discount.

and the next time someone really needs him to pull some new parts off a bike on the floor to help them out, and he refuses they'll call him an arsehole too.

lucky him.

[red baron]

He DID after all, look after his customer.

THIS

[Curmudgeon]

the dealer in question will now no doubt have a whole load of people turning up asking about a cheap new m1100, telling him he's an arsehole for selling a used bike as new, but declaring they're willing to let him off if he gives them a big discount.

Who knows. All this noise might even help him sell it. Dealers are not usually in a position to store last edition machines until they become collector's items.  It's a "leftover". 

If a serious buyer appeared, I'm sure I'd find mutual ground. I'm a salesman.  Jerks I'd tell to pound salt. Business is a two-way street.

BTW, neither I nor this dealer would likely offer a bike as "new" if the cases had been cracked. I'd add the bike to the "demo fleet" for 6 - 12 months and write it down.

FWIW, my bike was fairly far apart prior to delivery. Read my signature line. Hmmm... 

[hbliam]

The "new" is still new. It's as if it was damaged in transport and had the damaged new parts replaced with undamaged new parts. While it could delay the dealer from selling the new bike, as long as he orders the exact same parts he took off, why would it matter?

[Howie]

If the dealer borrowed a piston or other internal part, not good.  A small part, like a lever, no problem.  This is done all the time.

[hbliam]

If the dealer borrowed a piston or other internal part, not good.  A small part, like a lever, no problem.  This is done all the time.

Yeah, I agree. I was assuming it was bodywork or similar. I would have a problem with them pulling the engine apart.

[showerfan]

No  .   I regret not getting one because I want one now! I could not decide between buying the s4rs and s4r titanium that was left over.  I returned a couple weeks later and both bikes were gone!   

this is the horror that is my life. and when i pull the trigger quickly, i often end up regretting it, like with my hp4. i wish i'd bought and s4rs instead of an hp4...

[SDRider]

I want to start by saying I cannot vouch for the validity of this claim, but it was made on the inferior board and I wanted to get your take on it. Would a dealer do this? Would it be legal? Would it concern you?

So karlh over there says Bob Weaver Motorsports in Western New York had an 1100 20th anniversary edition on the showroom floor for sale. He then had a customer bring in an 1100 evo that needed repairs, but because of the Italian vacation couldn't get the parts from Ducati fast enough. So the dealer wheels the bike from the showroom floor into the garage and uses it as a donor for the customer bike.

The concern is that the dealer, when he finally got the parts from italy, put the 1100 anniversary edition back together and will now sell it as a new bike.

Is that possible? Is it wrong? I don't think I'd want that bike.

It depends what they took off of it.  If it was the engine then yeah, I'd say that's wrong, but if it was a wheel or mirrors or an electronic component I would say it's not big deal.

[thought]

Same as everyone else, if it was just cosmetic parts, I dont see that it's a big deal.  Different if it was him digging into the bike and pulling stuff out.