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Monster 696 seat very uncomfortable

Started by jonnydubbs, May 06, 2015, 08:29:46 AM

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jonnydubbs

I downsized from my Harley Sportster 1200 to a 2014 Monster 696. I'm enjoying the greater maneuverability and almost equal horsepower of the Ducati, but there is a problem which I suspect is a common complaint, especially for guys. The slope of the seat causes squashing and much discomfort to the genitals.  I've done a few rides of about 150km lately and after about 15km I'm in considerable pain. I've seen pictures of the touring seat for these bikes, but I suspect that the seat will still not stop the rider sliding down the seat into the tank.

I've owned 17 motorbikes and this is the first one that has given me such riding discomfort. I'm toying with the idea of peeling back the cover and adding more foam to the front of the seat to level it out a bit but I'm not sure that the cover will stretch enough.

Another thing I could do is lower the rear end to change the angle of the seat a little, but I don't think it would make enough difference.  I do not intend having children, but still would like to keep my equipment for recreational pleasure. Has anyone found a suitable solution to this problem?
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Anchorism

Ive had the same problem with my wifes 696 when riding 2up.  We had a DP seat (ducati performance) for it on the side and I assure you it is much better. Mind you I am 6'2 so its rather uncomfortable anyhow.... but still a blast.
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stopintime

If the other seat doesn't treat you better, maybe you could lower the rear part, instead of lifting the front.... (if indeed the cover isn't flexible/large enough to raise the front)
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DarkMonster620

the DP IS way more comfortable . . .
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Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AM
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ducpainter

Quote from: DarkMonster620 on May 06, 2015, 02:50:41 PM
the DP IS way more comfortable . . .
Is it better than the Sargent and Corbin too?
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DarkMonster620

Quote from: ducpainter on May 06, 2015, 03:17:51 PM
Is it better than the Sargent and Corbin too?
haven't tried those here in this specific model, but, if I were to choose one for my bike, I'd go with either one of those . . .

the DP touring for the M696/796/1100 is way more comfortable than OEM . .. I did a 200kms round trip on a M696 with one and it was comfortable as well as a 300kms with the OEM one and some numbness was present . . .
Carlos
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Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 08:34:34 AM
Ducati is the pretty girl that can't walk in heels without stumbling. I still love her.
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."

Raux

The dp seat is a bit taller and doesnt throw u forward, that being said, even on stock seat scoot back 1-2 inches and use your thighes to keep you from sliding forward.

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MotoZen

I got some padded underwear from Cycle Gear. I think they were designed with dirt riders in mind. But they've been great for me on my 821. About $50 (Fox brand, if I recall). The problem on my seat is not so much the angle as the softness, or lack of. When I tried the seat in lowered position, I slid into the tank a lot more. But the undies took care of the junk. I'm back to riding the seat in higher position. And the padded undies make riding for 3+ hours relatively pleasant for my ass.
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jonnydubbs

#10
Thanks everyone for the comments and suggestions. Much more helpful than some that friends have said.  Castration was one suggestion! I've already tried numerous times to sit further back and hold the position, but the thigh muscles tire easily from that.  If the footrests were mounted further forward that might change that dynamic.

At AU$623.94 the Corbin seat is not an option for me. The Sargent at AU$519.00 is also very expensive.

I've seen the touring seat on eBay for US$251.37 plus $58 postage and am considering that option.  I hadn't thought of cycle pants; certainly worth a try on my bony bum (I'm 5'10" and 127 pounds).  I'm not keen to buy a seat without first trying it, because of the cost.

I'm going to try a makeshift custom built cushion on it before going drastic or expensive. I'll secure the cushion with straps and Velcro under the seat. I'll attempt to post some photos and report on the comfort level when it's finished and fitted.
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MotoZen

Johnny Dub: check these out. I've got em. Not as good as a seat upgrade. But these have made a huge difference in my riding comfort. It has GENEROUS cushion in the entire area between your legs, front to back. There are also pads on the hips, thighs, and tailbone.

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en&biw=320&bih=356&tbm=shop&ei=WfhNVZvyBcq_sAXOoIC4Aw&q=cycle+gear+fox+base+gear&oq=cycle+gear+fox+base+gear&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3...2544.15622.0.16388.27.23.1.1.1.3.3099.19978.6-7j2j1j4.14.0.msedr...0...1c.1.64.mobile-gws-serp..24.3.5539.3.hPCjtlYzP8g#spd=925244921825341472
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Curmudgeon

Sargent (which is flatter) and Tech Spec knee pads when you're going slow. Rizoma bar can help too as it's a bit taller with 2" more sweep.  ;)

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danaid

  I have the DP touring seat and it is better, but not night and day better. I feel I've adjusted to the odd seat and I'm not bothered by it any more.
Another option is to find a local auto / marine upholster and have them recover your stock seat to the way you like. I looked into this after I had my touring seat and just extra foam and fabric would be the same as a touring seat, but to my liking.
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Two dogs



Agreed with above post , stomp grip on the side of the tank really helps sliding forward under braking.
Missus Dogs 696 was for me really uncomfortable to ride , lucky enough to pick up a near new DP seat
second hand for $100 with the tank grip it is now much kinder on the wedding tackle .

But it does seem taller making you feel perched on top rather than in the bike .