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Is the Scrambler the new Monster?

Started by xcaptainxbloodx, May 12, 2015, 11:52:58 AM

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eric

Quote from: 1.21GW on May 29, 2015, 12:11:18 PM
So I am putting up with idiocy at work all day and I take a moment to step back so as to not murder anyone and end up staring at pics of bikes I have decorating my cubicle.  And then I notice something on the scrambler:



Does that rear shock position seem wrong?  I mean, at a 45* angle, aren't you losing half the travel of one mounted at near 90*?  For comparison, a pic of a 620 I pulled off the interweb:



Not sure exactly how that works but they have the same thing going on in cars as well. See this Zonda:



Perhaps someone more mechanically astute can explain?  [popcorn]
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ducpainter

Shock position is very similar to an SS also.

That type of shock set-up eliminates the necessity for a linkage which reduces production costs.
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1.21GW

Quote from: ducpainter on May 29, 2015, 12:49:49 PM
Shock position is very similar to an SS also.

That type of shock set-up eliminates the necessity for a linkage which reduces production costs.

More detail re: linkage, please.  [popcorn]
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ducpainter

Quote from: 1.21GW on May 29, 2015, 01:23:03 PM
More detail re: linkage, please.  [popcorn]
Remove the seat of your Monster and look at the shock and the way it connects to everything. ;)
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a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
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    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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kopfjäger

Quote from: 1.21GW on May 29, 2015, 12:11:18 PM

Does that rear shock position seem wrong?  I mean, at a 45* angle, aren't you losing half the travel of one mounted at near 90*?  For comparison, a pic of a 620 I pulled off the interweb

Check out the 1199


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Raux

1199 is a linkage. New monster mts ss scrambler are linkless

kopfjäger

Quote from: Raux on May 29, 2015, 09:20:06 PM
1199 is a linkage. New monster mts ss scrambler are linkless

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Kev M

Quote from: xcaptainxbloodx on May 12, 2015, 11:52:58 AM
A "blank slate" standard bike with classic lines at a low price point with an air cooled engine.

<snip>

now the scrambler is here and looking at the frame and tank on its own, you can really turn it into whatever you want.

I dont mean to hate on newer monsters, theyre great in their own right, just not my thing.

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ScottRNelson

The distance from the swingarm pivot to where the shock attaches to the swingarm determines how much travel you get.  The angle isn't really relevant.

And the reason I resurrected this old thread is because I'm trying to figure out what the best forum is for Scrambler information.  I know that this forum, unlike the other one everybody bailed out of years ago, isn't afraid of pointing at other forums.

So where can I get more user information for the Scrambler?


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Charlie98

Quote from: ScottRNelson on September 09, 2017, 09:58:42 AM
The distance from the swingarm pivot to where the shock attaches to the swingarm determines how much travel you get.  The angle isn't really relevant.

And the reason I resurrected this old thread is because I'm trying to figure out what the best forum is for Scrambler information.  I know that this forum, unlike the other one everybody bailed out of years ago, isn't afraid of pointing at other forums.

So where can I get more user information for the Scrambler?


Can you believe it's been seven years since I sold all of my Ducatis?  I think it's time to get another one.

But you did the smart thing, if I am to believe your signature line... and kept the XR650...   [clap]

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ducpainter

Quote from: ScottRNelson on September 09, 2017, 09:58:42 AM
The distance from the swingarm pivot to where the shock attaches to the swingarm determines how much travel you get.  The angle isn't really relevant.

And the reason I resurrected this old thread is because I'm trying to figure out what the best forum is for Scrambler information.  I know that this forum, unlike the other one everybody bailed out of years ago, isn't afraid of pointing at other forums.

So where can I get more user information for the Scrambler?


Can you believe it's been seven years since I sold all of my Ducatis?  I think it's time to get another one.
To be honest, I have no idea.

I do know the Scrambler owners haven't come here...at all.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”



koko64

The Scrambler section in Ducati MS is very quiet. They may hang out with the other young'ns on sites using the facebook platform for bobber/café racer forums. All the model specific independent forums (Paso, Elefant, Multistrada) are all quiet too. Maybe we all gotta work harder and longer for the same or less money since the GFC? Everyone older with responsibilities is probably working their asses off, so I guess I can believe a younger buddy when he says there are younger folk active on facebook sites.
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Langanobob

Scott, our friends over at advrider have long threads going on Scramblers and also Desert Sleds. 

http://advrider.com/index.php?forums/moto-bellissima-all-other-dualsports.97/

Quote from: ScottRNelson on September 09, 2017, 09:58:42 AM
The distance from the swingarm pivot to where the shock attaches to the swingarm determines how much travel you get.  The angle isn't really relevant.

And the reason I resurrected this old thread is because I'm trying to figure out what the best forum is for Scrambler information.  I know that this forum, unlike the other one everybody bailed out of years ago, isn't afraid of pointing at other forums.

So where can I get more user information for the Scrambler?


Can you believe it's been seven years since I sold all of my Ducatis?  I think it's time to get another one.