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Is the Scrambler the new Monster?

Started by xcaptainxbloodx, May 12, 2015, 11:52:58 AM

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Quote from: koko64 on September 14, 2017, 03:12:48 PM
Thanks Geoff. Much appreciated. I reckon a Scrambler with low seat option might suit my daughters better than a Monster.
Aww bugger. I've said it before, but geeze I feel old when looking at the factory website marketing for the Scrambler and entry level Monster.  Leaves me convinced that if you're over 40 you better tell the dealer the Scrambler you wanna buy is for your kid otherwise you'll be firmly but respectfully guided over to the Multistrada section.  ;D "Here Sir, we also have some nice beige coloured adventure gear, it's very comfortable, the pants have an adjustable elastic waist". [laugh]

No worries Geoff. Do a thread write up and I'll post up the pics you send. [thumbsup]


Hell, I am under 40 (6 months to go!) and I still feel completely alienated by the Scrambler website.

Interesting Geoff's comment about people upgrading from Scrambler.  I figure 3 more years and I can pick one up cheap on the secondary market.
"I doubt I'm her type---I'm sure she's used to the finer things.  I'm usually broke. I'm kinda sloppy…"

Speeddog

Well, I can say with FHE that they're not much like an early Monster in at least one way....

Not very friendly to work on. At all.
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koko64

The used market should be good in a few years, just when my girls need to upgrade. Front wheel ABS aint a bad thing I guess and I got by without it, but would like my kids to have that safety feature.


You're at the height of your powers young stud ;D. The website reeks with model agency talent for sure. The girls look like my kids, (I bet their mums are hot). ;D It's powerful advertising for sure and I'm glad a whole new generation of Ducati riders are coming up.

Quote from: Speeddog on September 14, 2017, 05:31:05 PM
Well, I can say with FHE that they're not much like an early Monster in at least one way....

Not very friendly to work on. At all.

No flip up tank and all cramped up components?

2015 Scrambler 800

Speeddog

Quote from: koko64 on September 14, 2017, 05:38:07 PM

No flip up tank and all cramped up components?


That's a pretty good description.

The ABS doesn't help, the brick is big, and there's not a lot of places to put it.

I think they assemble most everything onto the engine, then drop the frame on.
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Speeddog

I take part of my last post back, the ABS brick is not that big.

But, there's things that have been done that really cramp the packaging.

Looking at the tank, shown here next to an '05 S2R tank.
Ducati says the Scrambler tank is 13.5 liter, S2R 14 liter.







The Scrambler tank is significantly smaller in every dimension.
Upshot is, the volume up under the Monster tank that's occupied by the airbox, battery and electronics is now mostly gone.
The frame and a third of the (small) airbox is all that's up under a Scrambler tank.

So the battery and electronics had to go somewhere else.
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koko64

Yeah, you can see it alright. I wonder if a long range tank will become available?
2015 Scrambler 800

Langanobob

Quote from: ducpainter on September 10, 2017, 07:05:22 PM
To be honest, I have no idea.

I do know the Scrambler owners haven't come here...at all.

Maybe if you set up a separate Scrambler/Desert Sled board here, they would come.  But then I think there's already a few Scrambler forums so they may all have already found a home.   I like the Desert Sled, just wish it wasn't as heavy as it is.  Too heavy for the serious offroad riding that they promote it for.   But from all reports it seems like a good overall bike.

Scott, if you're still here, how's your Scrambler investigation coming along?

ducpainter

Quote from: Langanobob on October 04, 2017, 09:55:43 PM
Maybe if you set up a separate Scrambler/Desert Sled board here, they would come.  But then I think there's already a few Scrambler forums so they may all have already found a home.   I like the Desert Sled, just wish it wasn't as heavy as it is.  Too heavy for the serious offroad riding that they promote it for.   But from all reports it seems like a good overall bike.

Scott, if you're still here, how's your Scrambler investigation coming along?
We've never had separate sections. All bikes are welcome here, and always will be.

I'm not convinced the forum platform is the choice of the social media user anymore. In case you hadn't noticed, this place is pretty quiet in general. The local boards are almost silent.

Things change.

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Howie

Quote from: ducpainter on October 05, 2017, 04:01:21 AM
We've never had separate sections. All bikes are welcome here, and always will be.

I'm not convinced the forum platform is the choice of the social media user anymore. In case you hadn't noticed, this place is pretty quiet in general. The local boards are almost silent.

Things change.



Not just this forum either. 

geoffduc

Don't get me wrong and I'm not being elitist but there are a few scrambler forums that seem to have attracted quite a lot of new to Ducati and motorcycles in general and some of the posts leave me in total confusion ... [bang] so let's just get on with our own forum as it is.
Like Nate has stated things are a little slow but that seems to be universal theme with forums at this present time, koko has asked me to relay my thoughts and the mods that I've done to my scrambler so hopefully I'll get it sorted shortly.
On another note Ducati sales are still quite strong over here in the UK which is a good thing even if I no longer deliver them to customers which I dearly miss.

Geoff... [coffee]
2015 scrambler FT
2009 monster 1100s

Langanobob


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Speeddog

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geoffduc

Quote from: Speeddog on October 12, 2017, 10:53:51 AM
That sidecar is f'n enormous

I had a good look at that outfit at last years bike show over here in the UK and it didn't strike me as enormous l just thought it looked the part after all when I was a kid sidecar outfits where the norm.
As for is the scrambler being the next monster?
I think we're going to see the evolution of it shortly.. ;). ;)

Geoff... [coffee]
2015 scrambler FT
2009 monster 1100s

ducpainter

Quote from: geoffduc on October 20, 2017, 07:00:19 AM
I had a good look at that outfit at last years bike show over here in the UK and it didn't strike me as enormous l just thought it looked the part after all when I was a kid sidecar outfits where the norm.
As for is the scrambler being the next monster?
I think we're going to see the evolution of it shortly.. ;). ;)

Geoff... [coffee]
Geoff...

those weren't side cars.

Those were chariots. ;D
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”