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Started by ducpainter, October 22, 2015, 07:54:47 AM

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kopfjäger

#375
October 30, 2015, 06:35:18 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on October 30, 2015, 06:26:36 PM
[thumbsup]

But I saw it in one of the links posted earlier in this thread.

I don't tweet.

He must have read my post.  :D

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=72077.msg1330204#msg1330204
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Speeddog

#376
October 30, 2015, 06:43:48 PM
Quote from: thought on October 30, 2015, 06:12:24 PM
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Hmm... had no idea of that. I agree, this will be very interesting.

That being said... the ultimate hero story for Rossi would be to get that 6th place finish with JLo coming in 3rd.  Pretty much becomes the fairytale ending to the Rossi movie.

That's my theory, Rossi cooked up this whole debacle.
If he wins, he's the champion overcoming a conspiracy.
If he loses, he was thwarted by the conspiracy, but not defeated on a level playing field by JLo.

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ducpainter

#377
October 30, 2015, 06:51:18 PM
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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kopfjäger

#378
October 30, 2015, 08:10:07 PM
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HotIce

#379
October 31, 2015, 07:19:10 AM
Quote from: Speeddog on October 30, 2015, 05:51:29 PM
Italian reporters ambush Marquez at home:

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marca.com%2F2015%2F10%2F30%2Fmotor%2Fmundial_motos%2Fgp-valencia%2F1446238320.html%3Fcid%3DSMBOSO34503%26s_kw%3DtwitterCM%3DTwitter

I wonder how their night in jail is going.
They actually sued the Marquez  ;D
But, they weren't really reporters. They are from a sort of comic show, and they go around giving funny trophies to famous people who did some controversial action.
So it's not really journalism.
In this case the trophy was named "Coppa di Minchia", where minchia is Sicilian slang for *ick  ;)
And the trophy was indeed having one specimen of such, on top.
What happened in reality is unclear. But it is clear that the Marquez stole, and apparently destroyed, the only proof (the tapes within these guys cameras) available to clear the issue.

ducpainter

#380
October 31, 2015, 07:45:58 AM
I guess they should have taken more back up. ;D

Sounds like the proverbial two story house...he said-she said.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”


Needle99

#381
October 31, 2015, 05:14:10 PM
Italians in Spain. Wonder how that will go....
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ducpainter

#382
October 31, 2015, 05:20:47 PM
Quote from: Needle99 on October 31, 2015, 05:14:10 PM
Italians in Spain. Wonder how that will go....
No kidding...
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”


ducpainter

#383
November 01, 2015, 07:46:14 AM
http://starmotorcycle.com/marquez-vs-rossi/

Jason weighs in...he's the second rider to wonder why Marquez made 7 laps.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”


HotIce

#384
November 01, 2015, 07:51:12 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on November 01, 2015, 07:46:14 AM
http://starmotorcycle.com/marquez-vs-rossi/

Jason weighs in...he's the second rider to wonder why Marquez made 7 laps.
+ 1

duccarlos

#385
November 01, 2015, 08:50:00 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on November 01, 2015, 07:46:14 AM
http://starmotorcycle.com/marquez-vs-rossi/

Jason weighs in...he's the second rider to wonder why Marquez made 7 laps.

I don't think there's a question that MM was being a douche. My question, is it better to finish 4th on Sepang and start in whatever spot in Valencia or is it better to finish 3rd and in the back of the grid?
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Speeddog

#386
November 01, 2015, 10:35:21 AM
Considering he's going to have to pass Barbera, Bautista, and Miller, if he makes it through the first lap, he'll be lucky.

IMO, 4th in Sepang and normal service in Valencia is way better than the 3rd & back of grid.
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Triple J

#387
November 01, 2015, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: Speeddog on November 01, 2015, 10:35:21 AM
Considering he's going to have to pass Barbera, Bautista, and Miller, if he makes it through the first lap, he'll be lucky.

IMO, 4th in Sepang and normal service in Valencia is way better than the 3rd & back of grid.

I agree. The thing is, after reviewing and graphing the lap times, VR wasn't going to do any better than 3rd no matter what. He just didn't have the pace of JLo. JLo didn't have the pace of Pedro.

MM wasn't keeping him from beating JLo, he was just pissing him off.

Raux

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#388
November 01, 2015, 02:23:14 PM
Then again if he didnt have those issues with mm and mm had actually fought with jlo at the pace he could have gone or fought with pedro slowing the whole race down.... What if...

Triple J

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#389
November 01, 2015, 04:51:27 PM Last Edit: November 01, 2015, 04:56:25 PM by Triple J
Quote from: Raux on November 01, 2015, 02:23:14 PM
Then again if he didnt have those issues with mm and mm had actually fought with jlo at the pace he could have gone or fought with pedro slowing the whole race down.... What if...

Nope. The ENTIRE race VR had 1 lap that matched JLo's. Lap 11. He then followed it up with a significantly slower lap. He couldn't match JLo on the 1st lap, 2nd lap, or 20th lap. 3rd was all he had in him.

MM didn't have Pedro's pace either (no one did), and was struggling to maintain JLo's...hence his running wide at T4. VR fans can think he let JLo through, but the lap time data, including splits, doesn't support it. He was struggling to stay with those guys. In fact, after 6 laps, NO ONE was maintaining that early pace. Not even Pedro.

What MM did do, was race VR early in the race, when he should have just tucked in behind him and waited until later in the race since he didn't have the pace to gap him.
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