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[duccarlos]

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/11/05/permanent-bureau-address-motogp-riders/188903

I'd only disagree that MM crashed because he refused to give ground and initiated contact with Rossi.

Going wide was simply the precipitate.

Again, the crash would not have happened if not for Rossi pushing him wide.

[rufus1138]

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/11/05/permanent-bureau-address-motogp-riders/188903

Again, the crash would not have happened if not for Rossi pushing him wide.

I still maintain bs on this, mm made a willful decision to initiate contact, in yacht racing the starboard boat has right-of-way in general, however only an idiot rams a leward boat and protests for the win while the vessel sinks, mm made a shit decision and vr is footing the bill

[thought]

Cas decision keeps rossi at the back wtf

It was always a hail mary play anyway... had big doubts if it would actually go through.

In some ways, it's better with the penalty. The uproar if the penalty was reversed would have just made this whole mess start back up.

Plus, Rossi still has a chance if Dani/MM manage to get ahead of JLo.  I think Rossi can easily pull off a 6th place finish.

[m9hundo]

With all the bad blood I would be extremely surprised if MM passed JLo, seriously why would he

[rufus1138]

That's definitely a possibility, gotta see where everyone qualifies

[kopfjäger]

Yacht racing?!! WTF

[greycode]

That was 6 minutes of awkward.

You ain't kiddin'. I like the BMX guy, though. 'I wanted to be a spaceman.' Looks like you succeeded, bro.

[Speeddog]

With all the bad blood I would be extremely surprised if MM passed JLo, seriously why would he

Because he hates Jlo just a smidge less than he hates Rossi?

He'd pass JLo for the same reason he passed him in PI, he wants to win the race.

[thought]

With all the bad blood I would be extremely surprised if MM passed JLo, seriously why would he

I'd say because pics like this exist:



cribbed from our Sepang thread

TBH, I think MM is actually in a bit of a hard place if JLo is anywhere in front of him the whole race. There will be accusations of letting JLo go if that happens... especially if JLo passes him and MM doesnt push JLo as hard as he pushed Rossi. Imo, to salvage his pride and rep, MM needs to beat JLo soundly if it came down to a duel. Then he can turn around and say he was just racing Rossi and not messing with the championship.

[greycode]

Yacht racing?!! WTF

https://youtu.be/7khQNR7s1Ho

[thought]

Yacht racing?!! WTF

There is a (tenuous) connection to MotoGP though!

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/popular/dani-pedrosa-arrested-cheating-yacht-exam/

[greycode]

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/11/05/suppo-we-don-t-want-to-put-more-fuel-on-the-fire/188897

Wait, did HRC just hold a press conference to say they have a secret, and they want to tell everyone, but they're going to wait until after the race to say anything because they don't want to add fuel to the fire...?

That's some Jedi level trolling douchebaggery, right there...

[ducpainter]

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2015/11/05/permanent-bureau-address-motogp-riders/188903

Again, the crash would not have happened if not for Rossi pushing him wide.

So if Rossi went wide because he lost the front Marquez would have crashed?

C'mon...share what you're smoking.

[Speeddog]

Meeting between the Permanent Bureau and riders has occurred.

As I suspected, Carmelo was pretty plain with his 'encouragement'.

And it seems there was a gag order as well, Ezpeleta told them to only talk about Valencia.

Rossi said he regretted running Marc wide, and JLo apologized for the 'thumbs down' incident.
Beyond that, they had no comments on Sepang.

Official Meeting transcript and press interaction here:
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/224896/1/permanent-bureau-sport-must-prevail-on-sunday.html
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/224901/1/rossi-i-regret-pushing-marquez-wide.html
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/224898/1/lorenzo-sorry-for-rossi-rostrum-gesture.html

[Triple J]

C'mon people...it isn't hard to understand.

MM crashed because he was pushed wide intentionally by VR. Sure he could have run off track and probably avoided the crash. But again, he would have been run off track intentionally.

The underlined word is the key here.

The guy with the inside line DOES NOT have the right to intentionally run someone off track. Period. In any racing.

Sure, it happens as part of racing...i.e., running wide and forcing someone off track, or losing the front and crashing someone out. That is a racing incident, and it happens all of the time. Rossi wasn't penalized for when he took Stoner out on the Honda a few years back for this reason. It was a racing incident. It happens.

There also is a gray area...a rider can "accidentally" run wide and push someone off track...i.e., "grass them". Not really allowed, but about impossible to prove if the rider appears to be racing.

What VR did is unacceptable. He SAT UP, SLOWED DOWN, and LOOKED at MM while he ran him wide. He deserved what he got as far as the penalty goes. Face it, he let his emotions get the better of him, and made a very bad decision.

This doesn't excuse MM's riding, which was overly aggressive (but clean) given the circumstances.

I'm also still cheering for VR to win the WC...but c'mon, take the yellow tinted glasses off!