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that Old Tangerine Dream (problem bike these days... :( )

Started by MsTek, June 01, 2017, 06:46:42 AM

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MsTek

So I haven't started this yet.

I looked at the video- I don't have some of those itty bitty tools.  I don't know if I can do this. :(  I was kind a gung-ho.. now I looked at the video... he looks so confident at what to cut and what to yank on... ugh.
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MsTek

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stopintime

The first two hoses are fuel overflow - leave them for now, but later route them inside the frame and foot peg assembly. They drip gas if you overfill.

The connector unhooks.

The two plastic 'quick release' thingies carry pressurised fuel from the tank to the injectors. Close to the grey metal fuel flange (which you are removing) the have circular clips - pinch with two fingers and pull. There might be some fuel in them, but not more than a small amount of paper will catch.
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

MsTek

Quote from: stopintime on July 30, 2017, 03:45:32 PM
The first two hoses are fuel overflow - leave them for now, but later route them inside the frame and foot peg assembly. They drip gas if you overfill.

The connector unhooks.

The two plastic 'quick release' thingies carry pressurised fuel from the tank to the injectors. Close to the grey metal fuel flange (which you are removing) the have circular clips - pinch with two fingers and pull. There might be some fuel in them, but not more than a small amount of paper will catch.

Thanks. :)
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MsTek

I probably bit off more than I can chew.  :(


  • There was more fuel in the tank than I thought- spilled gasoline all in the alley.  Put a sign up saying "DO NOT ASH HERE OR USE FIRE- GASOLINE".
  • Got the damn thing out... but have no idea still how to take it apart... nor do I have the tools in this video.  (https://youtu.be/eiHtrzgnncU)
  • This is far more complicated than building a computer and its only one part!!! And I'm worried about that grounded wire- I didn't look to see if mine has it (not that I'd recognize it if it does) but I have no idea what to with it if I do.

Tank is upside with a little fuel in it, open in my garage right now.  I am praying it STRORMS tomorrow to flush that alley.  I have the part sitting in my sink right now.  I am covered in gasoline.  I thought it was going to be simple but um... I don't have the right tools.  Going to walk away from this tomorrow and try to figure it out.  Maybe they have some tools at Autozone I can use.

*frustrated*

At least maybe I can follow this to put it back together?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FWnz5y40RU

And am I missing some sort of sticky goo I need to put on it because the inner side of that thing is very tacky to the touch.
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S21FOLGORE

Do you have to buy tools tomorrow? Have to buy locally?

If you have to, go to NAPA rather than Autozone, and ask them

Snap Ring Pliers
PART# SER3150
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/SER3150


O-ring and seal picks
PART# SER2554
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/SER2554

MsTek

Quote from: S21FOLGORE on August 06, 2017, 01:31:34 AM
Do you have to buy tools tomorrow? Have to buy locally?

If you have to, go to NAPA rather than Autozone, and ask them

Snap Ring Pliers
PART# SER3150
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/SER3150


O-ring and seal picks
PART# SER2554
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/SER2554


What about the sticky stuff on the bottom?

And are those the ONLY two things I need?  Dude seems to have an arsenal in the video.

Also, why is Autozone bad?
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MsTek

So I went out and got those two parts.  I'm going to go to the farmer's market right now and take a look because I kinda want tomatoes and cucumbers for lunch and then I will try to tackle this becaue the smell of gasoline in my house, in the garage, all over is making me feel quite sick.
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S21FOLGORE

QuoteWhat about the sticky stuff on the bottom?

According to the Ducati Workshop manual,

"Change the flange O-ring. Grease the new O-ring and reverse the removal procedure to refit."

So, the only thing you need to apply there is grease.

I suggest buying a bottle of acetone, and clean all the surface before putting things back together.

QuoteAnd are those the ONLY two things I need?

How much hand tools do you have now?

QuoteAlso, why is Autozone bad?

The reason I'd recommend you to go to NAPA rather than Autozone is

1)People at NAPA are (generally speaking) more knowledgeable.
2)The quality of the tools that you can find at Autozone is hit and miss. (Some are Okay, some are very questionable.)
3)If you keep working on your S2R, you will be buying more tools bit by bit, paper towels and absorbent mats, cleaning chemicals, etc. It is better to have one "go to" store rather than going to many different places randomly.
For that, NAPA is way better than Autozone.


S21FOLGORE

So, I assume you have screwdrivers (both Phillips and slotted) in some different sizes.
(You will need Phillips #2 and small slotted (like 1/8", for removing e-ring.)
(If you don't have, post again.)

You will need some pliers and cutters.
If you have a decent hardware store near you, you might find Channellock pliers and cutters.

8" Duckbill pliers
https://www.channellock.com/718-Long-Nose-Plier.aspx


7" diagonal cutter
https://www.channellock.com/437-Cutting-Plier.aspx


6.5" slip joint pliers
https://www.channellock.com/516-Slip-Joint-Plier.aspx


All made in USA, decently priced, good quality tools that will last forever.

Or, if you rather not to waste time for tool shopping, just go to NAPA again.

8" Duckbill
https://www.napaonline.com/p/CHQDBP8


7.5" Diagonal cutter
https://www.napaonline.com/p/CHQDCP75


6" slip joint
https://www.napaonline.com/p/CHQSJP6


NAPA Carlyle line tools are Taiwan made. The big advantage is, most NAPA store keep them in stock (so that you don't have to wait). And that makes warranty exchange really easy. (walk into the store with broken tool, walk out with the replacement, like Sears/Craftsman tools used to be.)

MsTek

So I got all those metal o rings off. I don't know if I did it right but I did.  Now I need to undo this to get the damn thing off.  How?  Do I break this?  Where will I get another if I do?


https://youtu.be/95K8H9Z3bo8
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stopintime

Quote from: MsTek on August 06, 2017, 01:52:55 PM
So I got all those metal o rings off. I don't know if I did it right but I did.  Now I need to undo this to get the damn thing off.  How?  Do I break this?  Where will I get another if I do?

Break it off. Carefully...  Replace with a normal hose clamp - screw on type - like Chris does in the video.
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

S21FOLGORE

#103


You should be able to find these at local hardware store, or NAPA store.

I forgot to say,
WEAR EYE PROTECTION when you remove e-rings, snap rings.

MsTek

Napa store is closing before I can go back to it. Will have to go to Lowes/Autozone.

Looked up "e-ring".  I did not see any "e-rings" in what I took off.

https://youtu.be/y_3ow0IHqGc
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