Buell 1125CR

[DoubleEagle]

I'm sorry, I just can't say anything other than give it up Eric !

[johnster]

Talking with some engineers that are motorcycle fans, it seems like to make a competitive racing bike, you should not come up with 30 patents (or whatever Eric claims).  Just copy what works on this planet

+11tyb...

He's trying to re-invent the wheel, and it's not working. All the wacky, kooky features (perimeter brake, oil in swingarm, etc) don't solve or improve ANYTHING...

-I've never met a person who has owned or ridden a Buell that loves it. Everyone thinks they're "OK at best", me included. 

[Privateer]

actually the 1125R abandoned the oil-in-swingarm.  It's still fuel-in-frame, however.  Take off those scoops and I'd buy one.  Buell was actually on my short list before getting my duc, but they were such an unknown quantity I was apprehensive about picking one up.  As said above, so many 'ground breaking' features makes me nervous.


On a side note, one of the guys I ride with has one and the thing is always dirty from leaking fluids.  And  from what I hear, at least in SoCal, the dealer support is terrible.



Andy

[NuTTs]

Dear Eric Buell,

However un-forseeable it may be.. you´re digging yourself into oncoming bankruptcy. How the hell could you actually produce three ugly ass motorbikes. Ok, one ugly ass bike could be forgiven, but THREE?? You´d think one learns from making mistakes.

I want to smoke what your designers are smoking.

I´ve lost all hope in your design capabilities.

[Markus]

Dear Eric Buell,

However un-forseeable it may be.. you´re digging yourself into oncoming bankruptcy. How the hell could you actually produce three ugly ass motorbikes. Ok, one ugly ass bike could be forgiven, but THREE?? You´d think one learns from making mistakes.

I want to smoke what your designers are smoking.

I´ve lost all hope in your design capabilities.

Ouch! The truth hurts.

[Grampa]

I remember seeing the Britten when it first appeared in print

my first thought "ugly.... thats not what a bike should look like...wheres the frame?"
But then, when you look at it, you see the art mixed in with function. it worked.

Same goes with one of my favorite musical groups XTC. I always hate the new tracks when they first come out, but after going back and listening to them again..... I fall in love. You hear the art.

I try took at  Buells the same way..... but they just dont get me to rethink my initial "ick" response.

I sometimes think, Eric is try'n too hard to be John.

[ICON]

Now all you need is the Darth Vader costume to match...yuk.

[akmnstr]

I sometimes think, Eric is try'n too hard to be John.

When I first read the comments that stated the Buell should stick with conventional design the first thing I thought of was
John Britten.  I admire Eric for trying to be John Britten.  Frankly I think it would be foolish to make another bike just like the
the Japs.  I see no problem with fuel in the frame or the exhaust under the engine.  The perimeter brakes may not be a success.  And Eric
the Scoops, why?  I think that the early tube frame Buells were great looking bikes but lately things are getting funky.  I am concerned because
I really want Eric to make it.  There are those that think we American's can't build a competitive sport bike.  I'd say that we hardly build anything
anymore.  I see Eric as one of our few hopes of showing the world that we still got the stuff to make the best.  If he would just race this bike with
a good budget I'm sure he could sort out the problems and re-gain respect for American engineering and manufacturing.   

[mcgalinmd]

it looks like that suzuki b-king in the front.  mitt, I agree - - 

[Grampa]

When I first read the comments that stated the Buell should stick with conventional design the first thing I thought of was
John Britten.  I admire Eric for trying to be John Britten.  Frankly I think it would be foolish to make another bike just like the
the Japs.  I see no problem with fuel in the frame or the exhaust under the engine.  The perimeter brakes may not be a success.  And Eric
the Scoops, why?  I think that the early tube frame Buells were great looking bikes but lately things are getting funky.  I am concerned because
I really want Eric to make it.  There are those that think we American's can't build a competitive sport bike.  I'd say that we hardly build anything
anymore.  I see Eric as one of our few hopes of showing the world that we still got the stuff to make the best.  If he would just race this bike with
a good budget I'm sure he could sort out the problems and re-gain respect for American engineering and manufacturing.   

Eric should be Eric.
The guy has skills, but he's made some huge mistakes. He became Harleys slave by signing a contract with them, and in his own words, the latest sportbike was the realization of design ideas he had YEARS ago. Uh hello.... it's 2008..... 1994 called, they want thier radiator scoops back.

Designs just to be different that suck, are just sucky designs. Designing something to work that just happens to be different, and having it work, is a success.

John, (IMO), made things to work, the look was secondary. Eric (IMO), designs things to look different, the function is secondary.

[Grampa]

All that being said..... daring to dream, then taking an idea, and making it into something real takes balls. Eric failing, is what living is all about. He's out there trying, and thats way more than most people do.

I think, and hope, that someday, he will hit it big.

[GLantern]

It looks like some kids toy i hate the styling

"Fisher Price My First Motorcycle"  Thats what it should be called

[mitt]

Designs just to be different that suck, are just sucky designs. Designing something to work that just happens to be different, and having it work, is a success.

John, (IMO), made things to work, the look was secondary. Eric (IMO), designs things to look different, the function is secondary.

Reading about Britten, he has the same attitude good designers and engineers have - if it looks good, it will work good & vice versa. Form is function.  Beauty is not an accident or created, it comes from evolution and natural selection.

mitt

[aaronb]

i got to ride an 1125r around road America last month.  it was ok.  had great power and decent handling. the brake worked ok.  but i would never uy one.  it vibrated excessively through the foot pegs above 8k rpm and heat just poured out of those pods onto my feet.  everything above my knees enjoyed the bike, but my tootsies just wanted to get off. 

i believe the pods are necessary due to erik's love of short wheelbases.  there is just no room for a traditional front mount radiator.  although he could do a rear mount, like the benelli tornado. 

there is a race fairing kit that makes the 1125r look ok, but not in comparison to any other bike in any other dealers show room. 

[AndrewNS]

Mitt's got it right! Beautiful machines more often than not work well, too. And vice versa for the ugly ones. I haven't ridden one of these, but this bike sure starts out on the ugly side of the spectrum.